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[M_D_K]

This is a split from this thread in the Programming Discussion forum. --Mar

You didn't leave on very good terms, and it seems you're trying to advertise on their boards. So let me get this straight. Is the shit that went down supposed to be water under the bridge like it never happened.
You said a lot of shit dude, and insulted me in the process.

[cypher1554R]

You didn't leave on very good terms, and it seems you're trying to advertise on their boards. So let me get this straight. Is the shit that went down supposed to be water under the bridge like it never happened.
You said a lot of shit dude, and insulted me in the process.

You, sir, insulted a few people "in the process" yourself.
I wouldn't backfire otherwise.

I apologized for what I did. If I had a second chance, I would NEVER do what I did.
I had some serious personal issues back then, and still have even more, but now I learned not to project them elsewhere.

But you. You don't have what it takes to forgive, don't you?

This won't be taking me down anytime soon.

PS: Also, what you did now is called topic hijack. If you want to talk about it, post a topic somewhere and send me a personal invitation. If you still haven't diminished and demonized me enough, you can take it there, and spit on me all you want. You know what else you can do.. Make a poll. Titled "Should cypher leave these forums?", and I swear, if the majority says I should, I'll pack and update elsewhere. The reason I stayed is that there are a few ppl out here that actually like what I do.. or am I wrong?

[avansc]

you should get a hold of a medical journal, because you sir... as you put it..
have a perpetual man period. dont be so sensitive.

[MarauderIIC]

PS: Also, what you did now is called topic hijack. If you want to talk about it, post a topic somewhere and send me a personal invitation.

I went ahead and split these posts from the original thread, due to this line here.

[avansc]

PS: Also, what you did now is called topic hijack. If you want to talk about it, post a topic somewhere and send me a personal invitation.

I went ahead and split these posts from the original thread, due to this line here.

I split out some replies by OP's "request," they are now located at this thread.

so which is it?

[MarauderIIC]

They both refer to the same thing, I just didn't have the line available for easy quoting in the original thread (was being a bit lazy). :)

[cypher1554R]

you should get a hold of a medical journal, because you sir... as you put it..
have a perpetual man period. dont be so sensitive.

That's hilarious. Yup! Must be it.
It's funny I didn't notice before. Red stains on pants and floor, should have figured..

I was able to rewrite everything more efficiently thanks to your tutorial on pointers.
Instead of saving every vertex in Vec3 structure, I'm using pointers and byte strides to pass info. The increase in performance is huge.

[avansc]

cool. anyways. i do think your new project looks sweet. look forward to seeing what comes of it.

[Falco Girgis]

Y'know, I wouldn't have said a single thing to you about sticking around here. I wasn't planning on it either, because I didn't have a problem with it. But you said:

I apologized for what I did.

Which is an absolute lie.

You left after directly insulting me, my girlfriend, and MDK. There wasn't an apology given. I'm not looking for one, and I don't really care for one, but I would appreciate if you at least told the truth about what happened. If you think that you can stick around here bad mouthing me or Kendall, then yes--get the hell out of here.

Especially considering the fact that Kendall is now helping me with ES more than Marcel ever did. You had no grounds for hating her.

PS: Also, what you did now is called topic hijack. If you want to talk about it, post a topic somewhere and send me a personal invitation. If you still haven't diminished and demonized me enough, you can take it there, and spit on me all you want. You know what else you can do.. Make a poll. Titled "Should cypher leave these forums?", and I swear, if the majority says I should, I'll pack and update elsewhere. The reason I stayed is that there are a few ppl out here that actually like what I do.. or am I wrong?

You didn't leave on very good terms, and it seems you're trying to advertise on their boards. So let me get this straight. Is the shit that went down supposed to be water under the bridge like it never happened.
You said a lot of shit dude, and insulted me in the process.

You, sir, insulted a few people "in the process" yourself.
I wouldn't backfire otherwise.

I apologized for what I did. If I had a second chance, I would NEVER do what I did.
I had some serious personal issues back then, and still have even more, but now I learned not to project them elsewhere.

But you. You don't have what it takes to forgive, don't you?

This won't be taking me down anytime soon.

PS: Also, what you did now is called topic hijack. If you want to talk about it, post a topic somewhere and send me a personal invitation. If you still haven't diminished and demonized me enough, you can take it there, and spit on me all you want. You know what else you can do.. Make a poll. Titled "Should cypher leave these forums?", and I swear, if the majority says I should, I'll pack and update elsewhere. The reason I stayed is that there are a few ppl out here that actually like what I do.. or am I wrong?

Please tell me this is a joke.

It was that kind of self pitying bullshit that made you absolutely impossible to work with. You either want to be here or you don't. We aren't going to beg for you to stay to bolster your ego.

Once again, I don't have any problem with you being a member of the community--I just have a problem with the blatant disrespect that you have shown every member of the ES devteam MINUS Marcel.

[cypher1554R]

Ah.. here we go. Falco is drama thirsty.. again.

Y'know, I wouldn't have said a single thing to you about sticking around here. I wasn't planning on it either, because I didn't have a problem with it. But you said:

I apologized for what I did.

Which is an absolute lie.

not. I did apologize, and it seems everyone got it except you.
On second thought, I never apologized to you.. You were the one of all that actually didn't deserve it.
And please I don't go "I would have let you stay here, but I " don't give me that crap. You just waited for me to post something so you can publicly "take care" of me. In the comfort.. where everyone unquestionably supports you. If you wanted it genuinely, you'd have taken care of it on personal level.

You left after directly insulting me, my girlfriend, and MDK. There wasn't an apology given. I'm not looking for one, and I don't really care for one, but I would appreciate if you at least told the truth about what happened. If you think that you can stick around here bad mouthing me or Kendall, then yes--get the hell out of here.

Excuse me?! Can you copy my quote where I insulted Kendall? Cause I can't remember doing that..
Although I did insult you and MDK.. The -pretentious dictator- and his -buttlicker-.
Now, get off my back, and be glad people don't see the side of you that I saw.

but I would appreciate if you at least told the truth about what happened

You mean.. the truth as THEE saweth it..?
Here it is: Everyone is wrong, Falco is right, I suck ass and should die right now. Happy?
Imagine it, cause it's not happening.

I don't pity myself, I fell, got on my feet, and I'm rolling. And I absolutely don't need you praising my ass.. although you did.. remember? You almost built me a statue on every track I made.. that was WAAAY more I would ever ask. You can't say I'm a glory whore since you let me have it more than Jesus will get on his second coming, if that ever happens.

I just have a problem with the blatant disrespect that you have shown every member of the ES devteam MINUS Marcel.

You're saying that I also insulted Marauder? and what about Kleithap? .. Talk about something you can back up.

If you want to believe that me and Marcel left with absolutely no reason, please, do so. After what I've seen of you, it wouldn't come in as a surprise at all.

Falco, you're good at one thing. Drama. That's how the team got to be famous, and it's sticking to you. You know how to lift the dust. And everybody just LOVES IT!
I guarantee that none of the disagreements we had wouldn't have turned out the way they did if it wasn't for your dramatic "interceptions".
Even Chris, who I dissed the most, was able to see that I had my bad day, and was stressed about art coming together so slowly. He calmed, and so did I. And the same would happened if he took it on me. Not like we should piss on each other's grave for a stupid disagreement. I can tell when someone is having a bad day, and it's perfectly fine if you have one. Is there anyone in here that never had a bad day?? In the end I turned for your help and what you did? Entirely dissed me and exponent the tension. Boy, do I make mistakes.

PS: Don't forget to copy the quote where I insulted Kendall.

[aamesxdavid]

On second thought, I never apologized to you.. You were the one of all that actually didn't deserve it.

You know, being a "militant atheist", I wouldn't hang around on forums owned by the pope...

Let's ignore the drama for a second, and bring some logic here:

These forums = Elysian Shadows Forums
Elysian Shadows Team = people who don't seem to be happy with you

And if that feeling is mutual (as it seems to be), then I can't imagine why you would even want to be here. Unless of course it's you who is.. what was it, drama thirsty?

If that were me, I'd either work it out personally (which you admit that you haven't done, fully at least), or leave - instead of playing the martyr.

[M_D_K]

I never got an apology. And what's that "buttlicker"? So that is what you call someone when they get on well with someone else...never knew that.

[MarauderIIC]

If you're talking about the post from priv dev that goes like this,

I just fail, it seems. This is why I need to go. The reason for me to stay is gone.
I'm really sorry everyone.

, it doesn't look like an apology for insulting people. It looks like an apology for you thinking you fail. If you're claiming you've apologized for making trouble, I took careful stock to make sure I wasn't missing anything, and I didn't see one. There is an admission of guilt, however.

I did have this locked by request, but then there were 4 people that said that they had something to say.
So in this case, I feel that I might have been forcing a final word too much. Unlocked, but keep it tame.

[avansc]

The difference is your bad days and good days are inversed.
I dont know what side of falco you are talking about, but he seems to always be fair. even when i dont agree with it.


cypher.. ask your self this question... does falco have these kinda feuds with other members on here?
i think the answer is no. with the exception of kostiak, which not even god would get along with.
so then i guess you have to ask yourself how many people on the forums you have had feuds with...
i guess you can see where im going with this, and i speak out of experience...

you are doing exactly what you stated you werenty gonna do in your revamping post here.

ps: i have no affiliation with falco or ES other than i post here. so please dont say i have an agenda or im a buttlicker or whatever.
im just calling it like i see it. if there is any info you wanna share with us that might make us see the sides you are. please feel free..

[Falco Girgis]

Cypher, you are the most absolutely self-absorbed person that I have ever met. Kendall and I are wondering if you are schizophrenic (and I am being absolutely serious).

I apologized for what I did.

On second thought, I never apologized to you.. You were the one of all that actually didn't deserve it.

...do you see what you just did there?

Now, get off my back, and be glad people don't see the side of you that I saw.

Jesus Christ, dude. I don't know what the hell you saw (or even are talking about), but yes, I'm glad most people don't see things and/or make up shit that isn't actually there.

I don't pity myself, I fell, got on my feet, and I'm rolling.

LOLWUT?

If you want to talk about it, post a topic somewhere and send me a personal invitation. If you still haven't diminished and demonized me enough, you can take it there, and spit on me all you want. You know what else you can do.. Make a poll. Titled "Should cypher leave these forums?", and I swear, if the majority says I should, I'll pack and update elsewhere.

Excuse me?! Can you copy my quote where I insulted Kendall?

Actually, sure.

It seems like every one of Falco's girls just has to join the team.

If that implication wasn't "offensive," then you have serious articulation issues--which, judging by the readability of your post--might actually be true, come to think of it.

and I absolutely don't need you praising my ass.. although you did.. remember? You almost built me a statue on every track I made.. that was WAAAY more I would ever ask. You can't say I'm a glory whore since you let me have it more than Jesus will get on his second coming, if that ever happens.

If this quote doesn't say that there is something fucked with you, then nothing does. You say what? I gave you praise? I told you that you did a good job? So what in the fuck do you have to hate me for? You just invalidated your entire reason for leaving the team AND hating me. I was nothing but good to you.

Falco, you're good at one thing. Drama. That's how the team got to be famous, and it's sticking to you.

I'm going to be honest--yes. I am very good at drama. But don't give me too much credit--it's not exactly hard to make somebody like you look like a dipshit.

Even Chris, who I dissed the most, was able to see that I had my bad day, and was stressed about art coming together so slowly. He calmed, and so did I.

Actually, funny you should mention that. I know Chris in real life. He hated you more than anybody. He had random local DJs over at my house practically AUDITIONING to be on Elysian Shadows. Ask Kendall. I told them all no, because I thought--and still do--think that you are extremely talented. You're just a little bitch. =/

I can tell when someone is having a bad day, and it's perfectly fine if you have one. Is there anyone in here that never had a bad day?? In the end I turned for your help and what you did? Entirely dissed me and exponent the tension. Boy, do I make mistakes.

I honestly don't and never did have any idea what the fuck you are talking about. You never asked anybody for help. You just belittled the work of two dedicated pixel artists, drove LusikkaMage off the team, insulted MDK for no reason, insulted my girlfriend for no reason, then told me that I was a controlling leader after I had never once "controlled you." Marcel leaving was the perfect time for you to turn around and be a little bitch--somebody was on your side for the first time in your life.

And if that feeling is mutual (as it seems to be), then I can't imagine why you would even want to be here. Unless of course it's you who is.. what was it, drama thirsty?

You know, I thought about this over dinner. These are wise words, and I completely agree.