Why the hell am I making Microsoft applications? O.o;;

Arce · Post by **Arce** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:43 pm

So I began reading "Sam's teach yourself Visuall C++ in 21 days" yesterday...Why the hell? IDK...I guess I got bored and decided to expand my horizions? I decided I could begin with that book, or the crusty PHP book I have up there....Well, since my computer's not online atm, I chose the C++ one.

Anyway, I'm surprised how simple it is to make some of that shit. I'll post some of my dinky little programs so far--I'm actually impressed with myself. Also, this isn't quite just random learnage--It'll actually be useful devwise. Making a real level editor in C++ without having to resort to Blitz or SDL would be simple as shit, as well as professional. Also, it'll teach me all I need to know about resource editing, DLL's, install files, and other useful window's ass that would make my game look professional.

Can I get a sweeT?

Anyone else here work with this type of think? Again, I'll post screens and links sometime tommorow.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:47 am

Well, since I'm a windows hater... yeah. But I need to find me a decent crossplatform GUI if I ever want to make anything like a level editor again. You know, since I roll with linux now.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:35 am

Using linux for your desktop is mostly stupid. Even most real developers don't. You have to be wonderfully computer literate, which you're not I know.

Windows is the developing platform IF ONLY because of VC++, not to mention the insane ease of developing with C# as compared to C/C++, and DX10. If you get into 'nix developing, you have to deal with all sorts of lameass replacement shells like GTK and whatnot.

C++ is really really hard to get working with GUIs and whatnot. I'd suggest learning it, but sticking with SDL until you know a lot about C++ and whichever GUI you plan on using (OGL, DX or SDL usually).

Post by **JS Lemming** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:15 pm

I respect your opinion, but please stop saying that you "know me". I'm not computer illerterate. You don't know me. We've talked on forums a long time ago, that's it.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:06 pm

No, you're not computer illiterate (illIterate, apparently you're english illiterate), but you're not learned enough to use linux. People who are are remarkably different from you, older than you, and smarter than you. I can barely use it with any functionality (past "LOL I SEE DESKTOP") that I want, much less customization, changing security protocols and whatnot.

And I know you well enough to know you're not smart enough to use Linux, and that's coming from a kid who said he himself is barely smart enough who knows a helluvalot more about computers than said other person.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:27 pm

You can get off your horse now.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:56 pm

I'm not on a high horse, I just know my strengths.

Arce · Post by **Arce** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:38 pm

JSL, using Linux? What the fuck for? Dude, seriously, you're going to go through all the extra ass just to have a functioning operating system merely because you're a 'window's hater'?

You said in another topic that you no longer Dev because you don't get enough out of what you put into it. Yet you're 'rolling with Linux'? Perhaps that should be a sign that you need an OS you don't have to pour all your time and effort into so that you can actually GET STUFF OUT OF YOUR DEVING.

I know a software engineer, making close to 100k, who fucking hates windows and is more than capable of running linux as his main OS, but doesn't on his home computer's simply because it's not worth the effort.

To be completely honest, I don't know shit about Linux, and I'm not going to claim to. I'm simply restating what I've heard fromt he much smarter and wiser.

Oh, and JSL, it's spelled illiterate.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:37 pm

Why run linux? For a false sense of superiority, like every other 'nix zealot.

Post by **JS Lemming** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:18 pm

Whatever floats my boat children.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:13 am

JS Lemming wrote:Whatever floats my boat children.

Children? This post is irony incarnate.

Post by **MarauderIIC** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:57 am

I used Mandrake Linux for a while. Newb linux build. I used it 'cause I was running a webserver & ftp from my desktop (securely), it had free [legal] decent development environments, and

Well that's about it. Really 'cause I was running a webserver.

Arce theForger's Win32 API Tutorial is what I'm working through right now. If your book doesn't cover windows programming, you might find it useful.