John Carmack bitch slaps PSP and DS, favors DC and iTouch

[Falco Girgis]

I found this actually pretty damn funny:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/08/john_ ... ned-2.html

First Sega's president tells us that the iTouch is on par with the Dreamcast. Then Carmack comes out bitch slaps the PSP and DS by saying that the iTouch is more powerful than the two combined and is on the DC's level.

For those of you who didn't know, Carmack was responsible for the Dreamcast port of the Quake 3 Arena, which has been hailed as one of the best PC to console ports ever. The game looked better than PC, ran at a perfect 60fps, was online, supported mouse and keyboard (and still does, I play on Dreamcast online from time to time), and even allowed for 4 player split screen.

Even more interestingly is the fact that the iTouch/iPhone's GPU is made by none other than .... POWERVR! I didn't even know that. The GPU is a later generation of the Dreamcast's own GPU (powerVR2DC). Sega even announced that they are looking into porting several DC games to it.

It's such a fucking shame that Apple decided to embrace Objective C/++ and force that upon its developers. Otherwise I would immediately hop on the iPhone/iTouch bandwagon, as I have experience with the PVR and would looove to broaden my horizons to such a badass platform.

[deryni21]

I found this actually pretty damn funny:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/08/john_ ... ned-2.html

First Sega's president tells us that the iTouch is on par with the Dreamcast. Then Carmack comes out bitch slaps the PSP and DS by saying that the iTouch is more powerful than the two combined and is on the DC's level.

For those of you who didn't know, Carmack was responsible for the Dreamcast port of the Quake 3 Arena, which has been hailed as one of the best PC to console ports ever. The game looked better than PC, ran at a perfect 60fps, was online, supported mouse and keyboard (and still does, I play on Dreamcast online from time to time), and even allowed for 4 player split screen.

Even more interestingly is the fact that the iTouch/iPhone's GPU is made by none other than .... POWERVR! I didn't even know that. The GPU is a later generation of the Dreamcast's own GPU (powerVR2DC). Sega even announced that they are looking into porting several DC games to it.

It's such a fucking shame that Apple decided to embrace Objective C/++ and force that upon its developers. Otherwise I would immediately hop on the iPhone/iTouch bandwagon, as I have experience with the PVR and would looove to broaden my horizons to such a badass platform.

hmmmm it's definately better then a ds and a psp but combined nah

i 've got to say though ipod touch

[Falco Girgis]

I found this actually pretty damn funny:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/08/john_ ... ned-2.html

First Sega's president tells us that the iTouch is on par with the Dreamcast. Then Carmack comes out bitch slaps the PSP and DS by saying that the iTouch is more powerful than the two combined and is on the DC's level.

For those of you who didn't know, Carmack was responsible for the Dreamcast port of the Quake 3 Arena, which has been hailed as one of the best PC to console ports ever. The game looked better than PC, ran at a perfect 60fps, was online, supported mouse and keyboard (and still does, I play on Dreamcast online from time to time), and even allowed for 4 player split screen.

Even more interestingly is the fact that the iTouch/iPhone's GPU is made by none other than .... POWERVR! I didn't even know that. The GPU is a later generation of the Dreamcast's own GPU (powerVR2DC). Sega even announced that they are looking into porting several DC games to it.

It's such a fucking shame that Apple decided to embrace Objective C/++ and force that upon its developers. Otherwise I would immediately hop on the iPhone/iTouch bandwagon, as I have experience with the PVR and would looove to broaden my horizons to such a badass platform.

hmmmm it's definately better then a ds and a psp but combined nah

i 've got to say though ipod touch

The specs beg to differ. The GPU is a pimped to fuck Dreamcast with hardware T&L and everything DC had (including things like bumpmapping and modifier volumes that PSP/PS2 couldn't dream of) but a lower fill rate (smaller screen).

[M_D_K]

Objective C/++ is the main reason I'm holding off on iTouch development.

[cronjob00]

as soon as I get my next paycheck I am going to go get a ipod touch, I have been wanting one for a while but kept putting it off but with Falco talking about how awesome it is and now Carmack guess its time to go get it.

[LeonBlade]

Well the SDK is Mac only (Virtual Machine lol)
Objectice C/++ is fine with me, but the whole Mac only thing is dumb... and you have to pay to get your app on the iPod Touch/iPhone (I heard maybe wrong...

[Falco Girgis]

Well the SDK is Mac only (Virtual Machine lol)
Objectice C/++ is fine with me, but the whole Mac only thing is dumb... and you have to pay to get your app on the iPod Touch/iPhone (I heard maybe wrong...

That's why we're all like "whoah, that's cool!" but aren't lifting a finger to develop for it.

[LeonBlade]

Theres always OS X ISOs and VM Software FREE lol

[deryni21]

One of my main issues with mac os software is that it only runs on mac hardware which is a load of crap in my opinion

[LeonBlade]

Not anymore, they use Intel processors now, which is why Mac can run Windows applications!

[cronjob00]

yeah its been Intel processors for a while now.

[deryni21]

I was always under the impression that it wouldn't run if i said bought leopard and put on a desktop at home

[LeonBlade]

Nah... just another reason to get a Mac
Windows 7 is awesome though! (I'm beta testing it) not enough to beat OS X

[cronjob00]

yeah right now I just have a crappy hp laptop and then like a 2 year old desktop that I built but the next computer I get is going to be a mac. I used to have a powerbook till it got stolen.

[M_D_K]

You can build iPhone/iTouch apps in windows(cygwin) and linux. But the setup steps are a bitch and you end up violating the SDK lisence agreement. The only downside is that you can't use the iPhone simulator