Elysian Shadows

Go Marcel!

I haven't seen the dialog box before, fantastic progress.

Now this may be a dumb question, but I know(or atleast, last that I remember) the level editor was made as a separate app in VB, so I can understand how it can export maps for the engine to read, but how does it attach to the engine? Is there two versions of the editor? One separate and one built into the main engine for the instant edit features? /dumb

Trask wrote:

Go Marcel!

I haven't seen the dialog box before, fantastic progress.

Now this may be a dumb question, but I know(or atleast, last that I remember) the level editor was made as a separate app in VB, so I can understand how it can export maps for the engine to read, but how does it attach to the engine? Is there two versions of the editor? One separate and one built into the main engine for the instant edit features? /dumb

If you're talking about the in-game level editor, I think it just gets input from the level file, changes the values, then rewrites the file with the appropriate values.

At least that's my understanding.

Yeah, I meant the in-game editor... it looks like the same program, except it changes things on the fly. Your way makes sense, thanks :D

Trask wrote:Yeah, I meant the in-game editor... it looks like the same program, except it changes things on the fly. Your way makes sense, thanks :D

That's all done in lua, that's all I know...

Note how marauder was the one who posted the 1ink? He's the one responsib1e for making it so damned sexy/professiona1. I sent him an o1der version (with the same diagrams and data) and he showed me how to make is bad-as-fuck! (I have over 13 copies of the same things w/ different arrangements, fonts, bu11ets, etc., a11 from Mar. XD)

A1so, uh..The two windows in that aren't quite done. I think the sp1ash screen may be, but not the Pro7ect win. I start off w/ those because they're simp1e and easy to do; great for getting a nice format going.

Now this may be a dumb question, but I know(or atleast, last that I remember) the level editor was made as a separate app in VB,

Actua11y, it's done in B1itzP1us (a different BASIC 1anguage). B1itzP1us was one of the first 1anguages i rea11y got to know, and soon I wi11 have an entire mock-up exp1aining why I chose it instead of VB, C++, 7ava, etc. ;p

Is there two versions of the editor? One separate and one built into the main engine for the instant edit features? /dumb

Haha! We ended up not using a segment in that dev-video where I was exp1aining "I don't know any 1ua and have never used it...Now I'm going to make my 1st script! Therefore, I'11 start off w/ something easy and see if I can ho1d pace w/ our script kiddie!"

The 'in-game editor' is a pretty basic script written entire1y in 1ua. Again, it was my 1st 1ua script and was somewhat point1ess. It doesn't save out stuff and was definate1y not intended to be used in p1ace of the rea1 editor! XD

We didn't discover uses for it unti1 1ater, when we rea1ized we cou1d test different parts of 1eve1s by instant1y changing the map.

Yeah, I meant the in-game editor... it looks like the same program, except it changes things on the fly. Your way makes sense, thanks :D

Huh, by reading this, now I'm not sure I answered the right question? You ta1king about how it evokes the engine from the editor? That's basica11y 7ust an 'execute fi1e' command with some robust debugging type stuff incase the engine's not in the right directory...

That's all done in lua, that's all I know...

Right on.

A1so, thanks everyone for comments/feedback. Again, I'm going to serious1y have to bust some ba11s updating this topic. I've been adding stuff to the editor (and not posting the change1ogs!! =O) rather than working on my dev-book...And been doing an ass1oad of AP chem work. The c1ass average for the 1ast test was a 54! /fuck!

Yeah, that post hurt my eyes with the numbers(I caught the reason in your sig) lol

You answered what I meant, I was thinking a bit more into it than I should of(I'm tired), sorry!

And Blitz? I could of sworn it was VB, but now that I think about it I remember you using Blitz. I have to rewatch the videos sometime, they've blurred together after all this time.

Trask wrote:Yeah, that post hurt my eyes with the numbers(I caught the reason in your sig) lol

You answered what I meant, I was thinking a bit more into it than I should of(I'm tired), sorry!

And Blitz? I could of sworn it was VB, but now that I think about it I remember you using Blitz. I have to rewatch the videos sometime, they've blurred together after all this time.

It's always been blitz, that's why I started using it Mr blitz you may take a

Yeah, like I said, it came back to me. I never used Blitz, in HS, they started off in True Basic, then went to C++... in college, they started in Dark Basic. I like it for prototyping, don't use it for anything more than that.

Trask wrote:Yeah, like I said, it came back to me. I never used Blitz, in HS, they started off in True Basic, then went to C++... in college, they started in Dark Basic. I like it for prototyping, don't use it for anything more than that.

Yeah...I'd on1y use it for rapid GUI deve1opment now-in-day.

I thought the editor wou1d be a sma11 rapid pro7ect...That's why I chose it instead of 7ava or C++...

Arce wrote:

Trask wrote:Yeah, like I said, it came back to me. I never used Blitz, in HS, they started off in True Basic, then went to C++... in college, they started in Dark Basic. I like it for prototyping, don't use it for anything more than that.

Yeah...I'd on1y use it for rapid GUI deve1opment now-in-day.

I thought the editor wou1d be a sma11 rapid pro7ect...That's why I chose it instead of 7ava or C++...

As big as the project is it probably would have been more manageable in c++... oh well too late now...

Most definate1y! There's even a movie where I discussed weather or not I shou1d begin rewriting it in C++. I've come to regret the decision not to...But now it's so far a1ong, doing so wou1d be counter-productive.

C++ is my preferred 1anguage for most apps, btw. Though I'm becoming increasing1y comfortab1e with 7ava, as that's what I use in schoo1 and wi11 1ike1y use 7ob shadowing at Raytheon.

Fuck I need a new keyboard.

Arce wrote:Most definate1y! There's even a movie where I discussed weather or not I shou1d begin rewriting it in C++. I've come to regret the decision not to...But now it's so far a1ong, doing so wou1d be counter-productive.

C++ is my preferred 1anguage for most apps, btw. Though I'm becoming increasing1y comfortab1e with 7ava, as that's what I use in schoo1 and wi11 1ike1y use 7ob shadowing at Raytheon.

Fuck I need a new keyboard.

I got mine for 15 bucks offa ebay, and it's just what I need.................

yeah you really do lol the post made me laugh, when you get a new keyboard you will still probably type that way just out of habit.

Arce wrote:Fuck I need a new keyboard.

Naa, it's way too entertaining this way.

your being forced to type in 133t. it makes me 1o1