Elysian Shadows

Sweet! Have fun learning Objective-C. I've been using my innovation time at work to learn iPhone development. Trust me, it takes a while to get used to the syntax.

I only get to work on it a couple hours a week, but at least 3 times during that period, I utter the following: "What the FUCK, Apple?? Seriously?!?"

Man, I missed that series.

"Pad smoke...don't breath that."

trufun202 wrote:Sweet! Have fun learning Objective-C. I've been using my innovation time at work to learn iPhone development. Trust me, it takes a while to get used to the syntax.

I only get to work on it a couple hours a week, but at least 3 times during that period, I utter the following: "What the FUCK, Apple?? Seriously?!?"

totally!
Apple pulled the same shit that Microsoft pulled with C# and XNA, it's all about the language uptake.

I still have yet to learn the god damn syntax of that dreaded fucking language and boy does it confuse the fuck out of me.
You got like brackets and shit randomly and sometimes you call what I assume are functions within brackets but then other times you don't SO WHAT THE FUCK.

I should probably look more into the syntax instead of just guessing but... yeah...
Normally with Objective-C I just dick around a bit trying to figure out what the fuck to do then quickly realize that I have no idea what I'm even trying to accomplish to begin with, so I just give up and move on to something else.

The syntax wasn't the hard part for me... it was the lack of creating your own main game loop for a game. I mean it's possible but you put your draw code in a function that is called every frame, you cant create the while loop like in C++.

trufun202 wrote:I only get to work on it a couple hours a week, but at least 3 times during that period, I utter the following: "What the FUCK, Apple?? Seriously?!?"

Pretty much this. They made a lot of odd choices with the syntax. It's like they were intentionally trying to be different from the norm.

M_D_K wrote:Apple pulled the same shit that Microsoft pulled with C# and XNA, it's all about the language uptake.

Except Microsoft pulled it off well.

Bakkon wrote: Except Microsoft pulled it off well.

Agreed

MrDeathNote wrote:

Bakkon wrote: Except Microsoft pulled it off well.

Agreed

Lol, yeah, I couldn't even wrap my head around the damn objective c terminology, let alone the freaking syntax...

eatcomics wrote:

MrDeathNote wrote:

Bakkon wrote: Except Microsoft pulled it off well.

Agreed

Lol, yeah, I couldn't even wrap my head around the damn objective c terminology, let alone the freaking syntax...

Lmao, same here

GroundUpEngine wrote:

eatcomics wrote:

MrDeathNote wrote:

Bakkon wrote: Except Microsoft pulled it off well.

Agreed

Lol, yeah, I couldn't even wrap my head around the damn objective c terminology, let alone the freaking syntax...

Lmao, same here

Again, agreed. I really wanted to try to port Pixen as the only decent pixel editor for windows is graphics gale but its... needs a mayjor UI update for one.

Then I looked at the Obj.c code and I'm like...... what the fuck is this?

What da??? You get free stuff from your boss? What kind of job do you do?

davidthefat wrote:What da??? You get free stuff from your boss? What kind of job do you do?

We work for a starting game development company.

Micro$oft doing something well??? Sounds like borg talk to me.
Objective-C is really powerful: remotely passing messages to nil objects without any consequence, having classes treated as objects, dynamic binding through selectors...etc...etc

We are the Microsoft. You will be assimilated. Your operating system and device distinctiveness will be overwrittern to our own. Resistance is futile.

or

We are the Apple. You will be assimilated. Your operating system and device distinctiveness will be overwrittern to our own. Resistance is futile.

Apple sounds funnier, plus, Microsoft lets you run on non-Microsoft made hardware

Live-Dimension wrote:We are the Microsoft. You will be assimilated. Your operating system and device distinctiveness will be overwrittern to our own. Resistance is futile.

or

We are the Apple. You will be assimilated. Your operating system and device distinctiveness will be overwrittern to our own. Resistance is futile.

you mean "your operating system will be based off of opensource, and you'll have to pay for our aesthetics."

Apple sounds funnier, plus, Microsoft lets you run on non-Microsoft made hardware

haha, well I'd rather drink the kool-aid than the flavor-aid. Microsoft doesn't bother with integrating software and hardware components because they don't make hardware. This means Windows is using a layer of abstraction to communicate with it's hardware. Go Micro$oft!