Elysian Shadows

pritam wrote:Media news or conspiracy theories, we'll never know the truth about many historical events, not for a great while at least. People walking out during his talk had probably heard the same thing before and just didn't wanna bother and I don't think they felt quilty about anything specific he talked about, it seems more like "here we go, fuck this shit".

cypher1554R wrote: Oh, geez. :]
So the USA saw that in order to maintain the system balance it had to take some oil from the sandpeople. The rest of us (cool guys of the UN ) said that we were willing to look away if we get a cut. So now a lot of people died, which is sad, but we still have our hi-speed internet connection which we can use to write crap we know nothing about on the internet.

This wouldn't be the first time that this has happened you know. For USA this would be the 3rd time besides WW1 (Lusitania) and WW2 (Pearl harbor), where Europe was in huge debt to USA from buying weapons to fight Hitler. If Germany had conquered Europe all that debt would just dissappear, and furthermore it would just be a matter of time before the attack on USA would begin. So the government said "f*** that sh**, we're not going to sit and wait. Some people have to die, so we can get everyone else to agree on war, so we can protect a greater cause.". A nation doesn't just go to war because you ask them kindly. You need a good reason. And I'm not pointing fingers at USA here. No. I love usa. I think that EVERY war in the whole history of human kind was started on this trick "Ahh! They attecked us! We must fight!". For example, Hitler - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

I bet that the others didn't have a translator :P and honestly had nothing to do that day, like any other day, sitting in comfy chair and just listening to crap all day is their job, so..

LeonBlade wrote:

pritam wrote:Media news or conspiracy theories, we'll never know the truth about many historical events, not for a great while at least. People walking out during his talk had probably heard the same thing before and just didn't wanna bother and I don't think they felt quilty about anything specific he talked about, it seems more like "here we go, fuck this shit".

This exactly, we will never know the real answer to what happened on that day honestly, or such events in the past.
To make a statement like "which it obviously didn't happen" is rather ignorant for the most part.
Yes, we should trust the government and their word 100%, but realistically when you have some compelling evidence that points in the opposite direction you can't be oblivious to those facts/arguments against what one person tells you.

But this isn't the time to discuss that I suppose. I don't think the guy was spewing crap, I just think America heard that and said "no no no, I can't listen to this I'm out".

avansc wrote:

LeonBlade wrote:

pritam wrote:Media news or conspiracy theories, we'll never know the truth about many historical events, not for a great while at least. People walking out during his talk had probably heard the same thing before and just didn't wanna bother and I don't think they felt quilty about anything specific he talked about, it seems more like "here we go, fuck this shit".

This exactly, we will never know the real answer to what happened on that day honestly, or such events in the past.
To make a statement like "which it obviously didn't happen" is rather ignorant for the most part.
Yes, we should trust the government and their word 100%, but realistically when you have some compelling evidence that points in the opposite direction you can't be oblivious to those facts/arguments against what one person tells you.

But this isn't the time to discuss that I suppose. I don't think the guy was spewing crap, I just think America heard that and said "no no no, I can't listen to this I'm out".

Yanno, I would try to debate you. but something about that fucking ridiculous mask tells me you are past reason.

but you talk about past events, i suppose pear harbor was an inside job too, oh and what about the 93 WTC bombings, the 04 madrid train bombings, etc etc..

But you keep believing it was an inside job.. the world needs wacadoos, if only to remind us what sanity is.

pritam wrote:Media news or conspiracy theories, we'll never know the truth about many historical events, not for a great while at least.

avansc wrote:You are talking about govt conspiracies, wearing a v for vendetta/guy fawkes mask.. lol...

LeonBlade wrote:

avansc wrote:You are talking about govt conspiracies, wearing a v for vendetta/guy fawkes mask.. lol...

What does that have to do anything? Honestly, please tell me one reason why my profile picture has anything to do with my argument.
I could change my profile picture right now and would that somehow effect my previous statements? No, of course not, so where is the logic behind it?

avansc wrote:

LeonBlade wrote:

avansc wrote:You are talking about govt conspiracies, wearing a v for vendetta/guy fawkes mask.. lol...

What does that have to do anything? Honestly, please tell me one reason why my profile picture has anything to do with my argument.
I could change my profile picture right now and would that somehow effect my previous statements? No, of course not, so where is the logic behind it?

Well I assumed you knew what that mask represents, but clearly you don't, that, or you just don't think that personal appearance attests to your predisposition's on matters.

It would be rather hard to take someone seriously when talking on say, what race might have some superior qualities, when that said person is dresses like a KKK member.

If you just wear that mask to be well, inno, what is a PC word for weird, eccentric, then well, sorry.

cypher1554R wrote:This is exactly why political debates should be prohibited on these forums.