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That doesn't bother me none.ismetteren wrote: It is like, for example a Java program, doesn't really "fit" in the system.
You are not using a single program running on the JVM?dandymcgee wrote:That doesn't bother me none.ismetteren wrote: It is like, for example a Java program, doesn't really "fit" in the system.
Did you even look at the (very easy and comprehensive, I might add) installation guide? Everything is said. Yes, you need to use PATH for it, but that's because Go is not intended to be normal. They designed it to work in its own little world, with its own runtime, an entirely different compiler system, and a poor and slow way of interfacing with C. It's not SUPPOSED to integrate because it's almost completely disparate from the rest of your system, which is all C or C++ based (mostly C for the core OS stuff).ismetteren wrote:Also, not all programs come packaged for being installed on filesystems like this. Lately i have installed the go programming language, which don't come with any installers, so you have to figure it out yourself. I don't even think it is possible to split the program up in different folders like that without altering the sources(i might be wrong off course, but it is not easy). I just threw it into some folder and added /path/to/go/bin to the PATH env variable.
And this is exactly my problem. Why does linux have to be a C/++ environment just because it is written in it? Why are programs written in anything other than that second class citizens?Ginto8 wrote:Did you even look at the (very easy and comprehensive, I might add) installation guide? Everything is said. Yes, you need to use PATH for it, but that's because Go is not intended to be normal. They designed it to work in its own little world, with its own runtime, an entirely different compiler system, and a poor and slow way of interfacing with C. It's not SUPPOSED to integrate because it's almost completely disparate from the rest of your system, which is all C or C++ based (mostly C for the core OS stuff).ismetteren wrote:Also, not all programs come packaged for being installed on filesystems like this. Lately i have installed the go programming language, which don't come with any installers, so you have to figure it out yourself. I don't even think it is possible to split the program up in different folders like that without altering the sources(i might be wrong off course, but it is not easy). I just threw it into some folder and added /path/to/go/bin to the PATH env variable.
I havn't had a major problem with it.N64vSNES wrote: You guys can't seriously like GCC?!?!
Me neither, and what would the better alternatives be?JaxDragon wrote:I havn't had a major problem with it.N64vSNES wrote: You guys can't seriously like GCC?!?!
Lol I think nico just doesn't know how to debug xD As per this whole C/Go file path thing, I'm lost as well Nico :Pismetteren wrote:Me neither, and what would the better alternatives be?JaxDragon wrote:I havn't had a major problem with it.N64vSNES wrote: You guys can't seriously like GCC?!?!
Go was just an example. My point is that programs that are not written in C/++ are annoying to deal with in the linux directory structure. And that even when you write C/++ programs, the files are scattered around the entire system, which means that i have no idea where i would put the different parts, even if i wrote a C/++ program, to make it fit the system.eatcomics wrote:As per this whole C/Go file path thing, I'm lost as well Nico :P
For C/++, libraries go in /usr/lib, binaries go in /usr/bin, and headers go in /usr/include.ismetteren wrote:Go was just an example. My point is that programs that are not written in C/++ are annoying to deal with in the linux directory structure. And that even when you write C/++ programs, the files are scattered around the entire system, which means that i have no idea where i would put the different parts, even if i wrote a C/++ program, to make it fit the system.eatcomics wrote:As per this whole C/Go file path thing, I'm lost as well Nico :P
That was meant mostly as a joke, I get what you're saying. Ironically enough though, a number of JVMs are indeed written in C++.ismetteren wrote:You are not using a single program running on the JVM?dandymcgee wrote:That doesn't bother me none.ismetteren wrote: It is like, for example a Java program, doesn't really "fit" in the system.
just curious, how is a JVM written in C++ ironic? It needs to be able to interpret bytecode, sometimes JIT portions, and basically run as an abstraction layer. I see no irony in the choice of C++ as an abstraction layer for the bytecodedandymcgee wrote:That was meant mostly as a joke, I get what you're saying. Ironically enough though, a number of JVMs are indeed written in C++.ismetteren wrote:You are not using a single program running on the JVM?dandymcgee wrote:That doesn't bother me none.ismetteren wrote: It is like, for example a Java program, doesn't really "fit" in the system.
GCC is garbage, it does not adhere to any standard strictly, and lets you do things that are not legal per the C/++ spec, you can write code that will work fine, but run it though a decent compiler like the intel C or MS C compiler and it might just blow up..TheBuzzSaw wrote:What do you hate so much about GCC? Frankly, I think it's great.