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Microsoft backs homebrew on the 360 100%
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:58 am
by skywalker541
Re: Microsoft backs homebrew on the 360 100%
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:32 pm
by DJ Yoshi
Too bad the only homebrew worth a damn on the 360 is the pirating.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:50 pm
by Falco Girgis
It's nice, but the Dreamcast and Xbox can still outperform the 360. If you'll read, they're giving you C# support with absolutely no hardware rendering. You've got your 2D SDL/DirectX ports as well as your 3D games with software rendering (Doom 95). It'll be interesting when Dreamcast can't kick 360's ass in homebrew. I'm hoping somebody will find away around the stupid ass limitations, because as it stands it isn't even worth it.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:20 pm
by DJ Yoshi
Even the PSP supports homebrew better, and Sony is actively working AGAINST it.
Irony.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:57 am
by skywalker541
If you'll read, they're giving you C# support with absolutely no hardware rendering.
They've made alot of improvement to C# for this. As it is they've got it running 80% as fast as C++, and still making improvements.
360 hombrew
will outperform the dreamcast. The indie Torque X engine is fully compatible and it uses hardware rendering. It's also available to buy for $100 if you didn't want to design a whole engine, and just make a game. Where did you read it doesn't support hardware rendering?
The program we are building, however, is more than a beginner tool. You will be able to write full-on games with shaders and high-end graphics if you want to go deeper. For example, we have an excellent relationship with Garage Games. They’ve been creating a managed code version of their tools and engines that work the XNA technologies. They’ve built a souped up version of Marble-Blast entirely in C# that is just rocking.
quote taken from
http://blogs.msdn.com/xna/archive/2006/ ... 99637.aspx
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:17 pm
by DJ Yoshi
skywalker541 wrote:If you'll read, they're giving you C# support with absolutely no hardware rendering.
They've made alot of improvement to C# for this. As it is they've got it running 80% as fast as C++, and still making improvements.
80% as fast? On windows C# is
faster than C++. This is called being too lazy to give a damn about homebrewers. Or, as I like to say it--a publicity stunt.
skywalker541 wrote:360 hombrew will outperform the dreamcast. The indie Torque X engine is fully compatible and it uses hardware rendering. It's also available to buy for $100 if you didn't want to design a whole engine, and just make a game. Where did you read it doesn't support hardware rendering?
1) The Torque X engine is targeted at 2D and very minor 3D games. There's a reason it only costs 100 bucks.
skywalker541 wrote:The program we are building, however, is more than a beginner tool. You will be able to write full-on games with shaders and high-end graphics if you want to go deeper. For example, we have an excellent relationship with Garage Games. They’ve been creating a managed code version of their tools and engines that work the XNA technologies. They’ve built a souped up version of Marble-Blast entirely in C# that is just rocking.
Oh yeah, marble blast! I can run that on a p700 with 256mb of RAM. Better known as the Xbox.
GG.
Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:20 pm
by JS Lemming
Last time I checked it was just a club that you had to pay a $100 membership to get into. As in, people have to join it to play your creations. But I could be wrong. I wasn't bothered enough to read the links you posted.
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:45 am
by skywalker541
No, the 100$ is just for the SDK. Once the game is compiled you can play it on any 360.
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:49 am
by Karkash
Shut up. No one cares.
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:15 pm
by skywalker541
I'm Done....
I'm done arguing with you guys about the Ps3. Its gonna flop, the 360 is better, there is really no point in debating on such a ridiculously obvious subject. I will not make any more posts, as far as I am concerned you guys can take your tweasers and jack off your microscopic weiners to your amazingly inferior $600 Sony piece of sh1t.
Bye Homos
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:51 pm
by Faust97
...I did not understand the arguement at all, but I'd get a PS3.
Oh, bye, douchebag.
PS. Our weiners are commonly mistaked for bazookas, so...
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:02 pm
by skywalker541
Ok, this is the last one..
That was a horrible comeback.
Bye
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:03 am
by DJ Yoshi
skywalker541 wrote:I'm Done....
I'm done arguing with you guys about the Ps3. Its gonna flop, the 360 is better, there is really no point in debating on such a ridiculously obvious subject. I will not make any more posts, as far as I am concerned you guys can take your tweasers and jack off your microscopic weiners to your amazingly inferior $600 Sony piece of sh1t.
Bye Homos
Except the 360 isn't "better" or anywhere close to "better". Graphically, the PS3 is better, game-wise Sony still has the backing of almost all the major companies, and quite a few exclusive titles to its name, and the 360 is gonna flop after people realize that it doesn't have anything to offer up except Halo 3.
The only thing that's obvious is that you're an idiot.
PS--it may be 600 dollars (or actually 500 dollars, if you don't want 1080p and instead can live with 1080i) but it'll still sell well. Sony will get more than enough sales to keep itself goin.