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Why the hell am I making Microsoft applications? O.o;;

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:43 pm
by Arce
So I began reading "Sam's teach yourself Visuall C++ in 21 days" yesterday...Why the hell? IDK...I guess I got bored and decided to expand my horizions? I decided I could begin with that book, or the crusty PHP book I have up there....Well, since my computer's not online atm, I chose the C++ one.

Anyway, I'm surprised how simple it is to make some of that shit. I'll post some of my dinky little programs so far--I'm actually impressed with myself. Also, this isn't quite just random learnage--It'll actually be useful devwise. Making a real level editor in C++ without having to resort to Blitz or SDL would be simple as shit, as well as professional. Also, it'll teach me all I need to know about resource editing, DLL's, install files, and other useful window's ass that would make my game look professional.

Can I get a sweeT?

Anyone else here work with this type of think? Again, I'll post screens and links sometime tommorow.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:47 am
by JS Lemming
Well, since I'm a windows hater... yeah. But I need to find me a decent crossplatform GUI if I ever want to make anything like a level editor again. You know, since I roll with linux now.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:35 am
by DJ Yoshi
Using linux for your desktop is mostly stupid. Even most real developers don't. You have to be wonderfully computer literate, which you're not I know.

Windows is the developing platform IF ONLY because of VC++, not to mention the insane ease of developing with C# as compared to C/C++, and DX10. If you get into 'nix developing, you have to deal with all sorts of lameass replacement shells like GTK and whatnot.

C++ is really really hard to get working with GUIs and whatnot. I'd suggest learning it, but sticking with SDL until you know a lot about C++ and whichever GUI you plan on using (OGL, DX or SDL usually).

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:15 pm
by JS Lemming
I respect your opinion, but please stop saying that you "know me". I'm not computer illerterate. You don't know me. We've talked on forums a long time ago, that's it.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:06 pm
by DJ Yoshi
No, you're not computer illiterate (illIterate, apparently you're english illiterate), but you're not learned enough to use linux. People who are are remarkably different from you, older than you, and smarter than you. I can barely use it with any functionality (past "LOL I SEE DESKTOP") that I want, much less customization, changing security protocols and whatnot.

And I know you well enough to know you're not smart enough to use Linux, and that's coming from a kid who said he himself is barely smart enough who knows a helluvalot more about computers than said other person.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:27 pm
by JS Lemming
You can get off your horse now.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:56 pm
by DJ Yoshi
I'm not on a high horse, I just know my strengths.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:38 pm
by Arce
JSL, using Linux? What the fuck for? Dude, seriously, you're going to go through all the extra ass just to have a functioning operating system merely because you're a 'window's hater'?

You said in another topic that you no longer Dev because you don't get enough out of what you put into it. Yet you're 'rolling with Linux'? Perhaps that should be a sign that you need an OS you don't have to pour all your time and effort into so that you can actually GET STUFF OUT OF YOUR DEVING.

I know a software engineer, making close to 100k, who fucking hates windows and is more than capable of running linux as his main OS, but doesn't on his home computer's simply because it's not worth the effort.

To be completely honest, I don't know shit about Linux, and I'm not going to claim to. I'm simply restating what I've heard fromt he much smarter and wiser.

Oh, and JSL, it's spelled illiterate.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:37 pm
by DJ Yoshi
Why run linux? For a false sense of superiority, like every other 'nix zealot.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:18 pm
by JS Lemming
Whatever floats my boat children.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:13 am
by DJ Yoshi
JS Lemming wrote:Whatever floats my boat children.
Children? This post is irony incarnate.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:57 am
by MarauderIIC
I used Mandrake Linux for a while. Newb linux build. I used it 'cause I was running a webserver & ftp from my desktop (securely), it had free [legal] decent development environments, and

Well that's about it. Really 'cause I was running a webserver.

Arce theForger's Win32 API Tutorial is what I'm working through right now. If your book doesn't cover windows programming, you might find it useful.