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Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:57 pm
by MarauderIIC
This was in my inbox. I go to the University of Kentucky (UK). Get it here before it hits the national news! But seriously, who the hell would do such a thing? Why bother?

...Stupid immature racist jackasses.
from President Lee T. Todd, Jr. <President.uk@...>
reply-to "President Lee T. Todd, Jr." <President.uk@...>
to ALL-CAMPUS@...
date Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM
subject Campus Incident on October 29, 2008
mailed-by lsv.uky.edu

12:14 PM (6 hours ago)

Unfortunately, this morning an effigy of Senator Barack Obama was discovered hanging in a tree on campus. I am personally offended and deeply embarrassed by this disgusting episode. This is not reasonable political expression; it is just malicious. And it is unacceptable.

On behalf of the University of Kentucky I apologize to Senator Obama and his family. I will personally assure them that this is not who we are as a University or as a state.

As President of the University of Kentucky, I feel outraged and hurt. I am outraged because we work very hard, every day, to build bridges across the divides. Diversity and inclusion are among our most precious core values. Episodes like this serve only to erode our confidence in and respect for one another.

Regardless of your political opinions or the candidates you support, a University such as ours must be a place where spirited discussion can take place, but within the bounds of civility, common sense, and respect for the views and feelings of others. We have insisted - and we will continue to insist - that we as a University and as a state rise above hatred and acts of malice or ignorance. The line separating civil discourse from unacceptable behavior has been crossed, constituting a clear violation of the University's code of ethics, and possibly constituting criminal acts, which would also violate University regulations. Such acts will not be tolerated. Those found responsible will be subject to the full force of university, state, and federal rules and regulations.

There is an on-going investigation into this incident, which includes federal authorities. If you have any information that would assist in this investigation you have a responsibility to contact the UK Police Department (257-1616).
Campus Forum to Discuss Effigy Incident
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from Provost Kumble Subbaswamy <provost.uk@...>
reply-to Provost Kumble Subbaswamy <provost.uk@...>
to ALL-CAMPUS@...
date Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:02 PM
subject Campus Forum to Discuss Effigy Incident
mailed-by lsv.uky.edu

The UK Interfaith Dialog Organization and the Martin Luther King, Jr. Cultural Center will jointly sponsor a Campus Forum tonight at 7:00 p.m. in Memorial Hall to address issues and concerns that have arisen because of the effigy incident this morning. Student, community and university leaders will be on hand to underscore UK's core values of diversity and inclusion, and to reiterate the community's commitment to civil discourse and mutual respect under all circumstances, and in the face of political disagreement in particular. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to attend.

Program participants will include Mehmet Saracoglu, President UK Interfaith Dialog Organization; Mayor Jim Newberry; President Lee Todd; Tyler Montell, President, UK Student Government; Reverend Peoples from Historic Pleasant Green Missionary Baptist Church and others.

(Free parking will be available in the Limestone Parking Garage next to Kennedy Book Store - entrances are on Limestone and Upper streets.)

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:38 pm
by cronjob00
Stuff like this allways amazes me on how stupid people can really be.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:16 pm
by ChrissyJ91
I can't believe the ignorance of some people. I hope they find those responsible.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:33 pm
by Falco Girgis
They are going to have hell to pay. That's going to be something huuuuge for them.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:08 pm
by Orgodemirk
Damn the ignorance in the southern states.

We're having a mock election at school on the third, and all but four people I've talked to are voting for McCain.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:43 am
by ultimatedragoon69
honestly i don't know anyone that is voting for Mcain, i myself am not voting at all but that is only a personal choice. I can't believe things like this still happen just makes me sick.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:48 am
by MakazeGamer
This just shows that with out a doubt that if Obama is elected, he will most likely be assassinated. And God forbid it be a white guy who did it, would spark what i believe to be the next civil war

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:22 am
by Kleithap
MakazeGmaer wrote:This just shows that with out a doubt that if Obama is elected, he will most likely be assassinated. And God forbid it be a white guy who did it, would spark what i believe to be the next civil war
I dunno, I think by electing Obama the U.S.A. will show both the world and it's own citizens that it's changing. I mean, I doubted he would make it past the primaries, and look where we are now!

Of course, IF he's elected he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:33 am
by MarauderIIC
ultimatedragoon69 wrote:honestly i don't know anyone that is voting for Mcain, i myself am not voting at all but that is only a personal choice. I can't believe things like this still happen just makes me sick.
Not voting is a waste. At least vote independent so that independent parties get more money which might eventually end the two-party system, giving you more choices in the future.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:33 am
by programmerinprogress
in the UK, we have three major parties:

-Labour (currently in power)
-Conservative (really wants to be in power)
-Liberal Democrat (has never been in power)

Although a system with more than two parties is a nice thought, usually it boils down to two opposing sides, however, people do vote lib dem sometimes, so I guess more than two parties in the race does make an impact.

They say that the next president is going to influence the entire world, with their foreign policy, and their economic policy, which is true, therefore i'm watching the polls on the various news networks (except fox lol) to see the result.

I think the democrats have a strong position... lets just hope race isn't an issue like some people are predicting.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:27 pm
by dandymcgee
Orgodemir-k wrote:We're having a mock election at school on the third, and all but four people I've talked to are voting for McCain.
We had one yesterday, Obama won over McCain ~900 to ~300.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:28 pm
by Falco Girgis
dandymcgee wrote:
Orgodemir-k wrote:We're having a mock election at school on the third, and all but four people I've talked to are voting for McCain.
We had one yesterday, Obama won over McCain ~900 to ~300.
If you reversed the two, that's about how Alabama would vote.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:33 pm
by MarauderIIC
Campus Incident Update
from President Lee T. Todd, Jr. <President.uk@...>
reply-to "President Lee T. Todd, Jr." <President.uk@...>
to ALL-CAMPUS@...
date Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:47 PM
subject Campus Incident Update
mailed-by ...

New developments have occurred in the unfortunate effigy incident on the UK campus Wednesday. Two men have been arrested in the case, one has been identified as a UK student and the other is not affiliated with the university. I want to commend our UK Police Department for its professional and expedient action in this case. The criminal case is now in the hands of the Fayette County Attorney and the Fayette Court system and any further details related to the case will be release through the County Attorney's Office.

In addition to the criminal charges, the UK student is subject to disciplinary action as defined in the UK Student Code and Governing Regulations of the University.

The university has a code of student conduct that establishes behavioral expectations for students. An initial determination of responsibility for a violation of the code and an appropriate sanction is made by the Dean of Students Office. In this process, all students' records including any disciplinary records are confidential in accordance with university regulations, and state and federal law. So this is not a process in which we will be able to share any additional information.

As outrageous and offensive an act as the effigy was, I truly believe it has mobilized our campus, the community and the state in an effort to battle racism and hate and seek the better angels of our nature. Clearly, we have much work to do in educating each other about tolerance and mutual respect.

I have been extremely moved by the outpouring of concern generated by this incident. I want to thank the many students, alumni, faculty, staff and concerned citizens who have contacted us since the incident. I also want to thank the nearly 700 participants in Wednesday night's campus forum. This truly gave our campus and our city leaders an opportunity to share their feelings and to unify our efforts to encourage diversity and respect for each other.

We cannot forget yesterday's unseemly incident. Rather, we must use that event to help us build a more welcoming University and a stronger and more inclusive community.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:57 am
by Trask
That's right, mess with the possible future leader of your country, real smart. People will do anything for attention these days.

Re: Campus Incident on October 29, 2008

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:26 pm
by sparda
Falco, you need to get the fuck out of Alabama! If you like open, farm-like, swastika-loving, red-nish places, there are better, not so pro-McCain places. Although I cannot (at the top of the mind), think of any, there must be, no?