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VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:27 pm
by avansc
Hi, okay. so i live in a little town called Raleigh, NC. and we have some of the best development houses around.
Epic, redstorm/ubisoft just to name a few. i did a co op at redstorm my sophomore yeah in college, so i have a little privy on the matter.

okay here to get to what this post is all about. MONEY!

if you want to be very successful and make loads of money being a game programmer probably is not the way to go.
game designer/programmers are grossly underpaid. most money goes to the publishers and so on.

so you may ask, fuck, what should i do.

here is the only real solution you have if you do wanna be a game programmer, (there is another solution but that required heaps of tallent to make original games, i dont fall under that category so i can tell you about that.) i would suggest, that if you have the money, do a MBA after college or maybe after working for a year or 2, dont work to long or you wont wanna go back to school. MBA stands for masters of business administration. this will give you a leg up on the competition and usually result in a managers or team lead position and if yu stick with the company long enough to something like project man, etc.

your salary will also triple almost. going from 50-100K (100k is for a developer with 5-10 years experience) to about 150-250k.

just thought id throw that out there. i wanna retire by like age 50 so this matters to me.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:35 pm
by Falco Girgis
Actually, that sounds absolutely correct. That's how the government works too. The people with the engineering degrees hit salary ceilings and don't get raises after so long. If you want to make more money, you have to move into management with something like an MBA. I see plenty of wisdom in this post.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:13 pm
by DJ Yoshi
Kinda glad I don't really wanna do game development for a living.

It's a passion first and a job second, if you wanna do it right. Because otherwise the money isn't there.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:42 am
by mokkan
It would take a lot of school to get an MBA on top of a CS degree... I have no doubts that it pays off, though.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:40 am
by avansc
mokkan wrote:It would take a lot of school to get an MBA on top of a CS degree... I have no doubts that it pays off, though.
its onlt one more year.

so normal bs is 4 years then 1 year for MBA. to more than double your potential income.

and this really applies for any technical job. if you are gonna be in the IT field this applies to you.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:48 am
by MarauderIIC
Dang, I like the way you guys are talking like 100k is not much money. I wonder if it's just because I've lived <20k most of my life?

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:28 pm
by trufun202
MarauderIIC wrote:Dang, I like the way you guys are talking like 100k is not much money. I wonder if it's just because I've lived <20k most of my life?
Ouch. Honestly, with your skillset, I think you should be way closer to the 100k range.

What industry do you work in?

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:33 pm
by Falco Girgis
Well, I do know that he is still working on his CS degree, so that's the major reason.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:39 pm
by avansc
i grew up pretty poor, both my parent were still in school when i was born till about when i was 10, then my mom became a anesthesiologist, she still lives in south africa, she makes a shit ton of money. and my dad is a senior network architect at IBM, so i have quite alot to live up to. so planning now will just make my road a little easier.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:43 pm
by avansc
GyroVorbis wrote:Well, I do know that he is still working on his CS degree, so that's the major reason.
yeah if you work partime while doing CS you are gonna make about 20 an hour as a contractor.

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:51 pm
by trufun202
GyroVorbis wrote:Well, I do know that he is still working on his CS degree, so that's the major reason.
Ahh, didn't realize Marauder was still in school. In that case, hang in there duder. :)

Re: VERY Important game game industry information

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:42 am
by MarauderIIC
Yeah I work in the student industry on $10 & $12/hr =)