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The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:34 am
by avansc
So i heard that sun micro systems was bought out by IBM.
what do you guys think.
will this affect the progression/popularity of java?
note, IBM has managed to run some software divisions right into the ground... ;(
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:44 am
by Arce
tbh, I doubt it...Though i confess I have little to base that on.
With cellphones becoming ever more powerful, Java has too much of a spot on the marketplace as hardware becomes more capable of running the JRE. Java developers need not worry about hardware specifics as they would in most other languages, and there's been a constant push to standardize cellphones (by 2010, supposedly, all cellphones will take a standard charger.) I'm sure that it's safe to assume this standardization will include support for Java JRE's (again, little basis to this assumption other than my personal experience being that most every phone has support).
And there are just some things about Java that are too powerful to discontinue it as a language. Can you dump an object to a database using reflection in C++? No way in hell.
Though I confess this is something I'll probably look into deeper, I really don't know too much about it.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:14 am
by RyanPridgeon
I don't think it will go down. Alot of peoples' living depends on Java (most Uni's here seem to teach it as the main programming language)
Unless of course they want the economy to get worse.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:34 am
by davidthefat
Isnt most embedded programs or what ever they are called in portable devices mostly programed in java?
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:41 pm
by Falco Girgis
davidthefat wrote:Isnt most embedded programs or what ever they are called in portable devices mostly programed in java?
Hell no. But most modern cell phones and the like have Java VMs running.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:50 pm
by Trask
GyroVorbis wrote:davidthefat wrote:Isnt most embedded programs or what ever they are called in portable devices mostly programed in java?
Hell no. But most modern cell phones and the like have Java VMs running.
I thought they were programmed in Java as well... I guess that funky C based language then? I forget what its called, but Gyro bitched about it about his iPOD Touchyourself
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:25 pm
by wearymemory
I.B.M. Withdraws $7 Billion Offer for Sun
I'd shutter at the site of IBM's updates for the JDK. Bring on the load of incomprehensible Indians! It's J. as in jnana, A. as in amet, V. as in vishnu, A. as in aba.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:37 pm
by eatcomics
Trask wrote:GyroVorbis wrote:davidthefat wrote:Isnt most embedded programs or what ever they are called in portable devices mostly programed in java?
Hell no. But most modern cell phones and the like have Java VMs running.
I thought they were programmed in Java as well... I guess that funky C based language then? I forget what its called, but Gyro bitched about it about his iPOD Touchyourself
Objective-C... freakin apple!
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:26 pm
by davidthefat
Interesting thing is most of Sony PSP's programs are in c/c++ and blu ray is in java though... Im assuming that the main ps3 programs are in c/c++ with special API's but cant be sure, since its also linux based...
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:44 pm
by LeonBlade
Objective-C is my only friend...
Not really but it's not too hard to program with though...
As for Java, it's awesome... that is all...
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:25 pm
by avansc
wearymemory wrote:I.B.M. Withdraws $7 Billion Offer for Sun
I'd shutter at the site of IBM's updates for the JDK. Bring on the load of incomprehensible Indians! It's J. as in jnana, A. as in amet, V. as in vishnu, A. as in aba.
hahahaha this made me giggle only cause i know how true it is.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:35 pm
by eatcomics
LeonBlade wrote:Objective-C is my only friend...
Not really but it's not too hard to program with though...
As for Java, it's awesome... that is all...
Yeah I here ya...
freak
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:39 pm
by JaxDragon
IBM didn't buy java. At least, thats what my RSS feed said. They cancelled the deal pretty much right before they signed the papers. That's why people say it may be the death of Sun. They don't really have that much funding/money.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:49 pm
by avansc
JaxDragon wrote:IBM didn't buy java. At least, thats what my RSS feed said. They cancelled the deal pretty much right before they signed the papers. That's why people say it may be the death of Sun. They don't really have that much funding/money.
read a bit ^^.
and who are you refering to when you say they. IBM had their best year ever last. i think they have enough money.
Re: The death of JAVA??
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:57 pm
by wtetzner
avansc wrote:JaxDrago wrote:That's why people say it may be the death of Sun. They don't really have that much funding/money.
read a bit ^^.
and who are you refering to when you say they. IBM had their best year ever last. i think they have enough money.
I think he means Sun doesn't have that much funding/money.