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Getting Started.

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:10 pm
by 0blivion
Hey guys, my name is Chris. Just recently I have mastered Web Programming and am looking to go onto something else. Throughout my life I have always wanted to be a Game Developer but have never been able to find out how to start until I found this website. In the future I want to create a nice 3D MMORPG but dont know where to begin. It would be awesome if you guys could give me a list of the languages I need to know to be able to create a game. I will most likely be wanting to use C++ for the main language. Also, recommendations of books to buy is greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Chris.

Re: Getting Started.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:35 am
by avansc
0blivion wrote:Hey guys, my name is Chris. Just recently I have mastered Web Programming and am looking to go onto something else. Throughout my life I have always wanted to be a Game Developer but have never been able to find out how to start until I found this website. In the future I want to create a nice 3D MMORPG but dont know where to begin. It would be awesome if you guys could give me a list of the languages I need to know to be able to create a game. I will most likely be wanting to use C++ for the main language. Also, recommendations of books to buy is greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Chris.
mastered web programming hey...
if you wanna make a 3dmmorpg i suggest these simple and proven steps.

1. get a computer science/game related degree at a reputable institute.
2. prepare a giant demo reel of what you can do. but non of your web master stuff.
3. send out at least 100 resumes. if you havent heard back in 4 weeks. repeat sending process.
4. pray to who ever you want to pray to.
5. blow someone in the industry.
7. finally get a job and make your mmo.

Re: Getting Started.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:58 am
by programmerinprogress
Yeah... what avansc was trying to say was...well never mind, you'll learn to love him :lol:

If you're serious about starting to program, I suggest that you begin by finding out about programming languages.

You need to first understand why you need to use a programming language to make applications (although I guess you probably already know that considering you know how to "program" in markup, although the markup languages themselves bare little resembelance to applications programming languages)

Learn to program, and I emphasise the word 'program', you don't just learn a language, you have to know how to be able to program, and being able to make a hello world aplication from something you learnt from a book and actually being able to judge when it's appropriate to use different control structures etc are two very different things, the latter is knowing how to program.

The last statement you made about the 3D MMO, no offence, but the terms 'beginner' and '3d MMO' are synonomous with ignorrance, i'm not doubting you at all, so don't get me wrong, but people won't take you seriously if you even mention that you'll try and make a 3D MMO before day one of actually writing any code at all!

I would advise you to check out GyroVorbis' videos entitled "Game Development: where to begin"
Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0B6Gbsu ... 98&index=3
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=e ... ZLDgxVMcHI
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=e ... 8CekH2grE0

These videos will hopefully help you to understand that making a game is much more time consuming than making websites, you need to commit a lot of time firstly to learn how to program, then how to program well, and then you need to allocate time to start a project.

Still up for giving it a try? then I wish you the best of luck ;)

Re: Getting Started.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:02 pm
by thejahooli
Web development is differentfrom software programming. That doesn't meen that it is irrelivant. Lot's of things in scripting on the web have a lot of things that will help you to learn the basics quicker than most.
And you will, being realistic, not be able to make a 3D MMO for years. And then you will likely have to work in a group of lots of programmers.
Even making a 2D game will take you a lot of time and determination.

Re: Getting Started.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:12 pm
by dandymcgee
Have you read programmerinprogress' post? If so, read it again and pay even closer attention to the excellent advice he is offering you. :mrgreen:

Stuck? Need help? If you've actually begun putting effort into doing this for real, please feel free to post any issues on these forums.