Elysian Shadows

Microsoft has released the first Visual Studio 2010 beta which can be downloaded here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

EDIT: If you're a C\C++ programmer DO NOT GET 10. You can't set up the C++ Directories except for each individual project.
The Error checker gives you random errors. And the size of the download ( if you JUST want C++) is ridiculous 4.2GB.
So for C\C++ It is a TERRIBLE IDE. All of the other languages seemed to work fine, they also added a new language called F#.

im sure it has bugs, dont know if its horrible.
oh, and i though they killed j#, because they got sued by sun, its a port of java as far as i can remember.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_Sharp

I know they killed J# but F# is something new, and I also found another bug.
The beta is a download but whenever you try to uninstall it, it asks for a cd. So, because of that you can't uninstall it.

animangaman690 wrote:I know they killed J# but F# is something new, and I also found another bug.
The beta is a download but whenever you try to uninstall it, it asks for a cd. So, because of that you can't uninstall it.

oh shit my apologies, miss read completely. might have to take a look at that.
mmm ass for not being able to uninstall it.. weird.

edit: just looked at some source. looks like OCaml to me.

Never used Visual Studio - and I won't use it in the future.
Its to big and to slow on startup =/

Milch wrote:Never used Visual Studio - and I won't use it in the future.
Its to big and to slow on startup =/

If you never used it ...
MSVS 2008 starts quite fast on my "valueline" laptop; only a few seconds. As for size, there's plenty to go around.

I didn't like MSVS 2008, because no matter what I did SDL extension libraries would never work, so I don't see my self spending 5 hours downloading this. I can't use Dev-C++ or Code::Blocks because they just stopped compiling my projects all together.

I gave up and just console program now.

lol

Pickzell wrote:I can't use Dev-C++ or Code::Blocks because they just stopped compiling my projects all together.

That doesn't necessarily mean you can't use them, just that you need to put some effort forward to figure out what's screwing up.

Milch wrote:Never used Visual Studio - and I won't use it in the future.
Its to big and to slow on startup =/

did a fresh install of VS2008 Pro, first boot up time, 2-3 seconds. second was instantaneously for all intense purposes.

dandymcgee wrote:

Pickzell wrote:I can't use Dev-C++ or Code::Blocks because they just stopped compiling my projects all together.

That doesn't necessarily mean you can't use them, just that you need to put some effort forward to figure out what's screwing up.

I did, and gave up after 2 months...

Superfetch helps. With the startup time.

I have heard nothing but bad things about 2010. I have the beta available the college of engineering's MSDN subscription, but I just spent a considerable amount of time getting the ES Engine to compile from scratch out of the box with 2008. I refuse to rework everything just because 2010 wants to be different.

I honestly think Visual Studio 2008 is pretty damn close to flawless. It isn't a resource hog at all. I'm running an Inspiron 6000 with only a gig of RAM and windows 7 (bad idea). VS2008 runs fine.

The debugger is amazing, lots of the C++ optimizations spank gcc/g++'s ass, and assembly development in VS is heavenly. It's a complete development environment that meets almost every one of my needs.

Soon as I got my new lappy, I installed MSC++ 2008 and I love it... So far I havn't had any issues I don't really care for a new version... I'm fine, and if something doesn't work, I'll just do it with notepad++ and compile with command line...