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i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:20 pm
by killercoder
well i am fairly new to programming i did use flash but i didnt like it very much and i have downloaded wxDev-C++ and also c++ VE 2008 but i would like to know what else i would need to download to completely start coding, i have bought 2 books on c++ so that so far is my language of choice but i am mainly asking for what else i need to download to get started like IDE's or what ever those are and if you have any good links to some tutorials i would be very thank full if you posted them on here thank you.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:13 pm
by andrew
A few tips that I've picked up:

1) Find your limit and keep pushing it. Always try to do a little more than you are able. Try not to over do it or you'll burn yourself out. On the other hand, if you don't work hard enough you won't improve.

2) When you're stressed take some time to relax. If everything seems to be going wrong take a break and come back to it.

3) Make sure you have fun. If it isn't fun it will feel like work and you won't want to do it.

4) Don't give up. There will always be problems to solve as a programmer, and there will always be obstacles that try to stop you from solving them. You just have to persevere and persist until the problem is solved.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:50 pm
by killercoder
thank you very much for the advice but to me the hardest part seems to be starting up from scratch so i would like to get ahold of a nice complete tut on a really easy game to make with c++ cuz so far all ive made is a Celsius to Fahrenheit converter lmao

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:00 pm
by Falco Girgis
All that you need is a compiler (IDE if you're really new) and some way of teaching yourself.

You have both. So go for it.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:17 pm
by killercoder
hmm well i dont have the books right now i only have part of c++ for dummies 5th adition on me and its teaching me like vocabulary not how
ex) if i got a sprite name levi and a map made with musugo how do i interprit those into the coding of the game like i understand that each tile is = to a number but i dont know where to start the coding process of making a background and adding a charecter that can move around. i was working with flash cs4 and so all i did was draw my charecter on there and add the codes to him and then click copy and paste it to my level but i do not under stand how to do that with c++ and many other text based games so im a little lost if you get what im trying to say.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:25 pm
by andrew
Don't try to learn how to program and make a game at the same time unless it is a simple text game.

You can give this a go: Wrath Lands
It's all text and just about as simple as you can get with an RPG. The tutorials were done on the spot without any planning aside from the design document. Once you are able to write your own from scratch you will be ready to learn a graphic library. These tutorials won't teach you how to program or the syntax of C++. It's more like a journal of a programmer thinking out loud while he's making a text RPG. You will still learn from it.

You should have everything else you need to get started. ;)

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:34 pm
by killercoder
ahh andrew thank you this seems like a good guide that ive been looking for thank you very much. im alittle confused on how to start programming so i am very thankful for ur help

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:08 pm
by Moosader
killercoder wrote:if i got a sprite name levi and a map made with musugo how do i interprit those into the coding of the game
You're not going to be working with graphics or maps until you learn the basics of C++. Your first programs will be dos-prompt-type things.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:29 am
by K-Bal
andrew wrote: You can give this a go: Wrath Lands
Oh no, this is the most horrible "tutorial" ever ;)
killercoder wrote:hmm well i dont have the books right now i only have part of c++ for dummies 5th adition on me and its teaching me like vocabulary not how
ex) if i got a sprite name levi and a map made with musugo how do i interprit those into the coding of the game like i understand that each tile is = to a number but i dont know where to start the coding process of making a background and adding a charecter that can move around. i was working with flash cs4 and so all i did was draw my charecter on there and add the codes to him and then click copy and paste it to my level but i do not under stand how to do that with c++ and many other text based games so im a little lost if you get what im trying to say.
Could you try to write like a normal human being? Where is Marauder? I thought we have a board rule for this :)

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:46 am
by Pennywise
You should the language itself before starting game development (Classes, Pointers, Polymorphism etc)
Then you should move on to learning a graphics library like SDL or Allegro.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:04 pm
by dandymcgee
Pennywise wrote:You should learn the language itself before starting game development (Classes, Pointers, Polymorphism etc)
Then you should move on to learning a graphics library like SDL or Allegro.
Fix'd. ;)

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:31 pm
by killercoder
Yeah sorry K-bal I wish in a rush yesterday sorry :mrgreen:
and thanks guys I was rushing it I should learn C++ language before I try coding a game :P

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:58 pm
by Pennywise
No problem ^^
Thanks for correcting my spelling dandymcgee. I checked that sentence about 3 times before posting it and didn't even notice that mistake :shock:

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:59 pm
by dandymcgee
Pennywise wrote:No problem ^^
Thanks for correcting my spelling dandymcgee. I checked that sentence about 3 times before posting it and didn't even notice that mistake :shock:
It happens.
killercoder wrote:Yeah sorry K-bal I wish in a rush yesterday sorry :mrgreen:
and thanks guys I was rushing it I should learn C++ language before I try coding a game :P
Sure, post if you get stuck with anything.

Re: i need some advice :)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:03 pm
by killercoder
I got to admit i like this forum a lot more than others because every other forum i post for beginner advice and they all just call me dumb lol -.-
so now im off to read 2 800 page books on c++ a couple times till i under stand it thanks guys :)