How Bout a Contest!

Post by **JS Lemming** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:45 pm

I'm getting kinda bored lately, so why don't we have a contest of some sort. Like an AI contest. We could start with something simple like pong. One of us creates a pong engine and then everyone creates their own AI (BY THEIRSELVES!) and run it like 100 times (no visuals for high speed) and see who the overall victor is.

What do you guys think?

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:06 pm

Sorry I am out. I am too busy with other things and how long will you think that would take just building the entire thing without ai. Besides i am not fully comprehending the sdl book. Thats a great idea though!!! :D

vmrob · Post by **vmrob** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:40 pm

god i need to learn some sdl

anyone want to recomend a book on the topic?

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:53 pm

Focus on SDL. that is what i have and thats what GV recommended to me.

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:54 pm

I changed my mind though. When I first started on that book, I had SO much trouble with it. Don't get it unless you know all of your class/struct object oriented garbage. You'd better know what this means:

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blood->x

If you want to learn SDL, what does that mean?

Don Pwnious · Post by **Don Pwnious** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:08 pm

Shoot!! Too late i already bought it.

Yeh i have to agree how is F800 = 1111 1000 0000 0000 b??

also located in pg.43

Tvspelsfreak · Post by **Tvspelsfreak** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:31 pm

The Phantom wrote:Yeh i have to agree how is F800 = 1111 1000 0000 0000 b??

1111 = 1*2^3+1*2^2+1*2^1+1*2^0 = 8+4+2+1 = 15 = F (hex)
1000 = 1*2^3+0*2^2+0*2^1+0*2^0 = 8+0+0+0 = 8 = 8 (hex)
0000 = 0*2^3+0*2^2+0*2^1+0*2^0 = 0+0+0+0 = 0 = 0 (hex)
0000 = 0*2^3+0*2^2+0*2^1+0*2^0 = 0+0+0+0 = 0 = 0 (hex)

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:37 pm

Wow, Tvspels, that's exactly what we're working on in Computer Science Club.

I can't believe you know that. You'd be like t3h ultimate Computer Science Club member. My C teacher would worship you!

Post by **JS Lemming** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:24 am

You wouldn't need to know SDL at all to be in the contest. All you need to know is basic C++ syntax to make AI. Does anyone want to be in the contest? I'll make the main engine if anyone wants to.

Tvspelsfreak · Post by **Tvspelsfreak** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:26 am

You'd have to make the ball faster than the paddle or else one could just do

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paddle.y = ball.y;

vmrob · Post by **vmrob** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:03 pm

that is what i was thinking just have the ai have the middle of the paddle always at the center of the ball.

and your question

blood->x

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(*blood).x

i don't know the offical terminology but x would be a variable in the instance blood.

(right??)

and like gyrovorbis said we are learning that in computer science team. hex to binary yeah.

Post by **Falco Girgis** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:25 pm

Wilson_industries, your -> explanation is right, BUT

HOLY SHIT

Wilson_industries wrote: that is what i was thinking just have the ai have the middle of the paddle always at the center of the ball.

Dude, if you think that is GOOD, then you're going to make a terribly sub-standard game (no offense). Tvspelsfreak was only bringing that up as an example of what NEVER to do.

That isn't AI, that's just some cheap monstrosity.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:57 am

I couldn't do anything, because I just know blitz. x.x

When you make the AI, will you be able to tell what the velocity of the ball is, the boundaries of the ring, ect? That would be REALLY, helpful when predicting what the ball will do next.

vmrob · Post by **vmrob** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:45 pm

yeah. it would be pretty sick and worthless having an unbeatable ai in pong.

i guess you could have the ball travel faster than the paddle like tvspelsfreak said and have a slight lag time between the computer responses.

a real challenge would be to come up with an ai in tic tac toe without programming every possible winning scenario into it.

Post by **MarauderIIC** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:36 pm

Chess.
For hex conversions, F is 1111 and 0 is 0000, etc... Each hex is four bits, and you just string them together.