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You sure do love C don't you?avansc wrote:C compliments C++ pretty well.
I wholeheartedly agree, learning C would be a great investment of your time.Most certainly. I started as a C++ programmer who foolishly abused and overused OOP. I started using C, and then D (don't try it, it's still a LONG way from being complete - it doesn't even have all the features it says it has!dandymcgee wrote:You sure do love C don't you?avansc wrote:C compliments C++ pretty well.
), and I learned a lot of the pros (and cons) of OOP, and (for the most part) why abused OOP can murder code. I think you should try out C definitely, and then a more OOP language, maybe Java, so you learn why C++ is a very good language that successfully combines procedural and OOP, without forcing complete use of one or the other . You'll also learn how you can resist the urge to abuse either 
.Agreed 100%avansc wrote:C compliments C++ pretty well.
Agreed, C is great, but there are other great languages out there c# is really useful and is very widely used. I learned C and then C++, if you are a competent C++ programmer you should be able to pick up C quickly as you should be familiar with a lot of the functions since C++ includes C as a subset. You've probably used quite a few C functions and don't even know it.Ginto8 wrote:Most certainly. I started as a C++ programmer who foolishly abused and overused OOP. I started using C, and then D (don't try it, it's still a LONG way from being complete - it doesn't even have all the features it says it has!dandymcgee wrote:You sure do love C don't you?avansc wrote:C compliments C++ pretty well.
Just out of curiosity have you ever used C#? I've been using it for my CS project since September, and although it's highly OO I disagree that it helps to teach you OOP concepts any better than C++. Many of the other students in my class have no idea why a function called "Write()" pops up when they type "Console." in visual studio, but rather just take for granted that it does.jacob.krustchinsky wrote:Might I be the one to recommend a more OO language such as Java or C#. Learning either of those languages will give you a far better understanding of OOP, which you can apply in C++
Yes, I actually use Lisp at work every day. Well, I actually use Clojure, which is a Lisp dialect that runs on the JVM.EccentricDuck wrote:Anyone with an opinion on Lisp? I've heard people go "oh, it's outdated, no one uses it, etc etc." and a select few say things like "it's made me a far better programmer" or "it's the reason I can rapidly create effective tools and software while others take several times as long with XX language". I've never really seen a good description of WHY either of those parties have those opinions though; but I would like to know since the latter group certainly have appealing positions.
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someFunc(foo, bar, baz);
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(some-func foo bar baz)
C++ if:
if(someFunc(foo, bar, baz))
{
return otherFunc(foo);
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{
return anotherFunc(bar);
}
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(if (some-func foo bar baz)
(other-func foo)
(another-func bar)))