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Web Dev'

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:37 pm
by THe Floating Brain
As some of you may know I am making a game engine , I plan for it to include the White-Storm: Lightning library (White-Storm: Lightning = name of engine) a "collision point editor" and a map editor. This would be simple enough (well not exactly simple) but I want to make the collision point editor and the map editor web applications. I herd that you can develop for the Internet in C++ through means of PHP (game engine is written in C++). I am unsure if this is true. I was wondering if for the web applications I should use Java. I would just use Java for the web development but I don't know if the sprites are the same size in memory with OpenGL and Java as they are with SFML and C++ (OpenGL because SFML derives from OpenGL) so before I go learn an entire new language and library I was hoping to get some opinions.
Thanks for reading :-D

P.s I know I can sometimes be unclear as to my point so if any clarification is needed just let me know . :-)
P.s.s C++ for life! just saying ;-) .

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:18 pm
by XianForce
Out of curiosity, what's the point in making those web apps?

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:29 am
by christo
I think the language you know best should have a huge advantage for doing anything. That said, C++ is probably the worst language for web development in general.

If you are asking what is the best language to develop web apps in if you don't know any of them, I think I would recommend any of Python, Ruby (Ruby on Rails) or Groovy (Grails) (my current favourite).

PHP is something other people recommend but I think it is very poorly organised and therefore ultimately more difficult and less useful than other stacks.

As you say Java is another possibility for web development, you might like to check out the play framework but I don't know if I can really recommend Java without knowing more about your programming abilities.

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:44 am
by THe Floating Brain
XianForce wrote:Out of curiosity, what's the point in making those web apps?
In case someone using it runs around alot (like me) you dont have to install them again on another computer.
christo wrote:I think the language you know best should have a huge advantage for doing anything. That said, C++ is probably the worst language for web development in general.

If you are asking what is the best language to develop web apps in if you don't know any of them, I think I would recommend any of Python, Ruby (Ruby on Rails) or Groovy (Grails) (my current favourite).

PHP is something other people recommend but I think it is very poorly organised and therefore ultI'mately more difficult and less useful than other stacks.
Thank you for your input :-)
christo wrote:As you say Java is another possibility for web development, you might like to check out the play framework but I don't know if I can really recommend Java without knowing more about your programming abilities.
My programming skills are not exactly the best on the forum but I'm okay at it.

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:03 am
by dandymcgee
THe Floating Brain wrote:
XianForce wrote:Out of curiosity, what's the point in making those web apps?
In case someone using it runs around alot (like me) you dont have to install them again on another computer.
So don't put it in an installer. Just put the standalone .exe in a zip and host it on the site.

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:07 pm
by THe Floating Brain
dandymcgee wrote:
THe Floating Brain wrote:
XianForce wrote:Out of curiosity, what's the point in making those web apps?
In case someone using it runs around alot (like me) you dont have to install them again on another computer.
So don't put it in an installer. Just put the standalone .exe in a zip and host it on the site.
Idk I kinda want it to look more... profesional plus I want to be able to use it at school XD (when there is no more work to do of corse :-) )

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:05 pm
by dandymcgee
THe Floating Brain wrote:
dandymcgee wrote: So don't put it in an installer. Just put the standalone .exe in a zip and host it on the site.
Idk I kinda want it to look more... profesional plus I want to be able to use it at school XD (when there is no more work to do of corse :-) )
Why would that prevent you from using it at school? And show me a professional non-web-based game whose map editor is web-based.

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:28 pm
by k1net1k
i think he means he could just go to a website and do his level design, when he is meant to be working on other stuff.
and some schools only allow certain apps/ports through

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:44 am
by THe Floating Brain
k1net1k wrote:i think he means he could just go to a website and do his level design, when he is meant to be working on other stuff.
and some schools only allow certain apps/ports through
Bingo :-)
dandymcgee wrote: And show me a professional non-web-based game whose map editor is web-based.
I wouldd allow a complete instillation option it would just allow you to use it on the web when you don't have much time or you are running a computer without it.
P.s I can show you a game that is web based with a web based map editor http://www.kongregate.com/games/Jiggmin ... m-racing-2 . :-)

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:16 am
by christo
go for it brain. web apps are the way of the future.

here's quake 2 ported to html 5 and javascript (using GWT): http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:44 am
by MrDeathNote
christo wrote:go for it brain. web apps are the way of the future.

here's quake 2 ported to html 5 and javascript (using GWT): http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/
That's seriously bad ass :)

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:53 am
by N64vSNES
christo wrote:go for it brain. web apps are the way of the future.

here's quake 2 ported to html 5 and javascript (using GWT): http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/
Oh em gee! I no longer need to use the old 98/ME :lol:

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:08 am
by dandymcgee
THe Floating Brain wrote:P.s I can show you a game that is web based with a web based map editor http://www.kongregate.com/games/Jiggmin ... m-racing-2 . :-)
That's not what I said.

In any case, there are plenty of different ways to do this depending on how you want it to work. Java is definitely one possibility.

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:06 pm
by eatcomics
I vote make it text based!

Re: Web Dev'

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:47 am
by THe Floating Brain
Thanks guys :-D