Elysian Shadows

Do you guys still use the old deprecated way of using OpenGL?

Some modern OpenGL tutorials:
http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro- ... tents.html
http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut/

Personally, i tend to use the lowest version that can provide the features that i need. So in very simple projects, yes, i do. When using opengl 2.0+ though i usually avoid the deprecated way, unless i just need to quickly test something.

Nope. Or at least not now that OpenGL ES doesn't support half of that shit.

davidthefat wrote:Do you guys still use the old deprecated way of using OpenGL?

Some modern OpenGL tutorials:
http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro- ... tents.html
http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut/

I haven't learned OpenGL yet, but that second link you have posted looks really nice, thanks

davidthefat wrote:Do you guys still use the old deprecated way of using OpenGL?

Some modern OpenGL tutorials:
http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro- ... tents.html
http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut/

By depreciated do you mean using GLUT? If so, yes I do use GLUT.

LeonBlade wrote:

davidthefat wrote:Do you guys still use the old deprecated way of using OpenGL?

Some modern OpenGL tutorials:
http://duriansoftware.com/joe/An-intro- ... tents.html
http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut/

By depreciated do you mean using GLUT? If so, yes I do use GLUT.

By depreciated, I'm quite sure he means using the fixed function pipeline instead of the programmable pipeline.

I graduate next term, so before I go and do that, I decided to take graphics programming this term, it's the first term where the professor teaches the programmable pipeline, it seems like its new to him as well. It seems much more involved then the fixed function pipeline, finally make me dive in and really understand what's going on during each stage. I for one think the new pipeline will force me to understand the graphics pipeline at a much deeper level.

short wrote:I graduate next term, so before I go and do that, I decided to take graphics programming this term, it's the first term where the professor teaches the programmable pipeline, it seems like its new to him as well. It seems much more involved then the fixed function pipeline, finally make me dive in and really understand what's going on during each stage. I for one think the new pipeline will force me to understand the graphics pipeline at a much deeper level.

WOW.

Consider yourself lucky. Our university had one CS class on graphics, taught by the biggest piece of shit professor I've ever had in my life. Everything was immediate-mode rendering and has been deprecated for the last 5 years... we never textured a single polygon.

I made all fucking As last semester in my engineering courses and barely got out of this class with D. A fucking D in something I've been doing since I was a kid... I've never wanted to murder a professor like that in my life... </rant>

Bit of both, for compatibility reasons..

I would still use it for debugging purposes. Drawing shapes with lines and such. If you're good with batching you can reduce the performance hit, and as a debug tool, it's not like it will show up in the final product anyways.

I took an OpenGL programming course as well, as an art class. It wasn't that bad, and it must take guts to teach us art students how to use the Linux shell and build with it while assuming that we know nothing more than HTML. Next year I saw the new students using Dev-C++

Now my CS 107 teacher, he didn't know what he was doing. We used HTML and Javascript which isn't the bad part because it's an easy way to prototype stuff. But he took points off for not capitalizing tags and not commenting enough.

GyroVorbis wrote:

short wrote:I graduate next term, so before I go and do that, I decided to take graphics programming this term, it's the first term where the professor teaches the programmable pipeline, it seems like its new to him as well. It seems much more involved then the fixed function pipeline, finally make me dive in and really understand what's going on during each stage. I for one think the new pipeline will force me to understand the graphics pipeline at a much deeper level.

WOW.

Consider yourself lucky. Our university had one CS class on graphics, taught by the biggest piece of shit professor I've ever had in my life. Everything was immediate-mode rendering and has been deprecated for the last 5 years... we never textured a single polygon.

I made all fucking As last semester in my engineering courses and barely got out of this class with D. A fucking D in something I've been doing since I was a kid... I've never wanted to murder a professor like that in my life... </rant>

Damn a D?? How did the other people in the class do?

xx6heartless6xx wrote:

GyroVorbis wrote:

short wrote:I graduate next term, so before I go and do that, I decided to take graphics programming this term, it's the first term where the professor teaches the programmable pipeline, it seems like its new to him as well. It seems much more involved then the fixed function pipeline, finally make me dive in and really understand what's going on during each stage. I for one think the new pipeline will force me to understand the graphics pipeline at a much deeper level.

WOW.

Consider yourself lucky. Our university had one CS class on graphics, taught by the biggest piece of shit professor I've ever had in my life. Everything was immediate-mode rendering and has been deprecated for the last 5 years... we never textured a single polygon.

I made all fucking As last semester in my engineering courses and barely got out of this class with D. A fucking D in something I've been doing since I was a kid... I've never wanted to murder a professor like that in my life... </rant>

Damn a D?? How did the other people in the class do?

Considerably better. This teacher had a reputation of hating engineering students...

There were a few times when I had pulled all nighters working on our lunar rover project for senior design and couldn't get the assignments done on time. The chair of engineering asked (or told his ass) to accept my assignments late twice. He graded we waaay harder and hated me ever since then. I once lost two letter grades for not using his header templates in my program comments...

I do not want to start a new thread about it, but anyone upgraded to the new C++ standard? (C++11/C++0X). It is supposedly implemented in most mainstream compilers by now, but GCC requires the -std=c++0x tag

GyroVorbis wrote:

xx6heartless6xx wrote:

GyroVorbis wrote:

short wrote:I graduate next term, so before I go and do that, I decided to take graphics programming this term, it's the first term where the professor teaches the programmable pipeline, it seems like its new to him as well. It seems much more involved then the fixed function pipeline, finally make me dive in and really understand what's going on during each stage. I for one think the new pipeline will force me to understand the graphics pipeline at a much deeper level.

WOW.

Consider yourself lucky. Our university had one CS class on graphics, taught by the biggest piece of shit professor I've ever had in my life. Everything was immediate-mode rendering and has been deprecated for the last 5 years... we never textured a single polygon.

I made all fucking As last semester in my engineering courses and barely got out of this class with D. A fucking D in something I've been doing since I was a kid... I've never wanted to murder a professor like that in my life... </rant>

Damn a D?? How did the other people in the class do?

Considerably better. This teacher had a reputation of hating engineering students...

There were a few times when I had pulled all nighters working on our lunar rover project for senior design and couldn't get the assignments done on time. The chair of engineering asked (or told his ass) to accept my assignments late twice. He graded we waaay harder and hated me ever since then. I once lost two letter grades for not using his header templates in my program comments...

sounds like the professor has some serious problems

My professor assigned the seventh edition of the opengl redbook as required reading for the class.

I looked and it still used the fixed function pipeline (so I didn't bother), and even in class he mentioned once that the book just isn't that good.

Amazon let's you pre-order the eight edition, but I found something I am liking much more.

I found an online book, that seems to be VERY good. It's teaching me how to program opengl 3.3 and above.

Here's the link:

http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut/

Take a look, I'm learning immensely from it. There's a lot different, especially with vertex and fragment shaders. It's like a whole new world :D