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Help protect the web!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:28 pm
by THe Floating Brain
Disclaimer: This is mainly only applicable if you are a U.S citizen.

Fellow people of the internet/web developers, the United States congress is considering a new law to censor the web. In my opinion this goes against many basic U.S principles. Besides the point you can help oppose this law by going here and e-mailing your local congressman:

https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/ ... n_KEY=8173

Thank you for reading.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:41 pm
by dandymcgee
If that passes, the Internet as we know it will literally tear itself apart.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:48 pm
by Light-Dark
Thank god i live in Canada, Seriously i gotta wonder what the fuck the U.S government is thinking :nono: , are they trying to set off riot bombs? if you censor the internet people aren't going to be happy, i know i wouldn't be.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:12 pm
by ismetteren
So as I understand it, they want to control the domain name system.

So they are going to force DNS servers to follow their specifications? But what prevents people from using DNS servers outside of America?

Generally, i think that many of these anti-piracy laws we see are, seen from a technical standpoint, completely bizarre. A DNS server is, AFAIK, basically just a list of hostnames and ip-addresses, and a set of rules for distributing them. The scenario where someone becomes a criminal for distributing a set of non-copyrighted strings and integers, because they contain information about how to get to a web-site, which contains information about how to connect to computers where you can download material that may or may not be illegal kinda freaks me out.

Also, my technically minded brain cant help but think that things like DNS and BitTorrent in reality are very high level abstractions and in the end it is just about sending electrical signals through a copper (or fiber optic) wire. This point of view tells us something about why geeks don't make laws, but it also shows that what they are banning is essentially just an exchange of (non copyrighted) information.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:32 pm
by THe Floating Brain
I pretty much agree with everyone here. In addition I would like to add the fact that this can easily be abused.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:34 am
by Light-Dark



Has some great points on this idiotic bill.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:54 am
by dandymcgee
This bill is seriously fucking stupid. The laws we already have regarding copyrighted material allow authorities to do what they're trying to do with this new bill, to a lesser degree of punishment. How many illegally streamed videos / illegal music is actually being hosted in the United States right now? The problem is that most of the content is in other countries, outside of our government's jurisdiction, and they can't do jack shit about it. Increasing the penalty for something that is not even well defined to a FELONY FEDERAL OFFENSE is absurd. There needs to be some serious discussion taking place before this, or any minutely related bill, is allowed to go through.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:26 pm
by M_D_K
Got a link to an e-petition (on whitehouse.gov) here.
I hope all you yanks sign it.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:50 pm
by short
mdk (or anyone): I'm not a web expert, but im curious, what is the wwws used mean? (as opposed to just www)

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:15 pm
by dandymcgee
short wrote:mdk (or anyone): I'm not a web expert, but im curious, what is the wwws used mean? (as opposed to just www)
I think in the case of wwws.whitehouse.gov is means www secure (the https protocol is used vs standard http). It's probably hosted on a different server altogether, hence they needed to come up with an alternative sub-domain for the secure site.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:59 am
by szdarkhack
dandymcgee wrote:
short wrote:mdk (or anyone): I'm not a web expert, but im curious, what is the wwws used mean? (as opposed to just www)
I think in the case of wwws.whitehouse.gov is means www secure (the https protocol is used vs standard http). It's probably hosted on a different server altogether, hence they needed to come up with an alternative sub-domain for the secure site.
Yeah, i'm pretty sure that's what it means. After all, "www" or "wwws" is just a subdomain name, it doesn't signify anything. They probably used it to indicate that this portion of the domain uses https instead of http.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:55 am
by pritam
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Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:24 am
by dandymcgee
Haha Pritam, yeah.. I noticed that too.

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:50 pm
by Light-Dark
pritam wrote:Image
Cant wait for the riots!

Re: Help protect the web!

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:01 am
by DStudios
Glad I live in Canada.