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FredDibnah · Post by **FredDibnah** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:08 pm

Dj Yoshi wrote:It's not a stereotype...it's fact. In order to be Christian you have to denounce all other beliefs as silly and false. It's nearly impossible to be a tolerant Christian. And don't you dare call out the entire muslim population because a few of their radicals decided to bomb us. Muslims are very peaceful, very friendly, and very good people. Terrorists are pseudo-muslims who have perverted the views that Muhammad started out teaching.

It isn't a requirement to being a Christian. My preacher considers many other beliefs the same, just with a different vision of who God is. It is a stereotype. I don't know any Christian who isn't tolerant. Times have changed, and many have realized that the men who wrote the Bible possibly put their own thoughts on the subject of other religions, not God's.

And also...what the heck? You read it wrong. I didn't call out the entire Muslim population. "It's hardly a general belief, and the only ones that do hate other beliefs are the fanatics. Kinda like muslims, eh?" Muslims have fanatics as well is what I was saying.

Xylene · Post by **Xylene** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:35 pm

Anime is against your religion. You're going to hell.

Catalyst · Post by **Catalyst** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:05 pm

Your mother is against my religion. I'm going to hell.

Dark Crusader · Post by **Dark Crusader** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:07 am

Uhhh.....Ok......1. I r not evil. Just insane.2.Who says wikka promotes badness?3.I here by renounce my christian faith! I HAVE NO FAITH! With all the bad crap and horrible things that go on in the world I just cant accept the so called god. I have nothing against anyone. So what if Im going to hell. So many people are more worried about the next world that they forget about the one there in.

Catalyst · Post by **Catalyst** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:03 am

Well, I would agree with you, but I'd think people might wanna make a few preparations in this one to ensure that they don't suffer forever in the next. Not that I believe in any of that crap.

FredDibnah · Post by **FredDibnah** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:43 am

Dark Crusader wrote:Uhhh.....Ok......1. I r not evil. Just insane.2.Who says wikka promotes badness?3.I here by renounce my christian faith! I HAVE NO FAITH! With all the bad crap and horrible things that go on in the world I just cant accept the so called god. I have nothing against anyone. So what if Im going to hell. So many people are more worried about the next world that they forget about the one there in.

You said witchcraft. Witchcraft is used for evil. But magic, that can be used for good. You don't believe in magic do you? 0.o

This is sort of the same thing, but dying isn't a bad thing if there is a heaven. So I still believe in God despite people getting killed by hurricanes and whatnot. But I guess you can think whatever about it, I don't care.

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:07 pm

Actually then your pastor or priest or whatever is wrong. The only religions that could possibly be the same are Islam and Judaism (Judaism for sure although people doubt Islam even though the Koran is only the Old Testament). All other religions are either polytheistic, or they follow a god that's not anywhere near the Christian god. And there's more to Christianity than believing in God--you have to believe Jesus Christ was your Lord and Saviour. Therefore, you have to believe that Judaism and Islam are both incorrect in their assessments of the lack of coming of a messiah, and that they are both WRONG. Yes, if you believe in a religion, you have to believe that you're right and all other religions are wrong.

Dark Crusader · Post by **Dark Crusader** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:14 pm

I wonder if there is a connection to the Harry Potter books and our little discution of faith?

DJ Yoshi · Post by **DJ Yoshi** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:16 pm

Discussion. And it stemmed from your idiotic claim to be 'wiccan' (though that "religion" is so damn convoluted and lame that only little kids attempt to follow it) and what it was to be Christian.

Dark Crusader · Post by **Dark Crusader** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:44 pm

Hey Im not going to get into a supperiority test of faith. So Im a little kid just because I like something you dont. I just think its funny that everyone gets into flame wars over the stupidest crap. No no one can be sarcastic or try to state there opinion without some other idiot criticising them. Oh and I never said I was wiccan I just said I liked the whol magic and dark arts thing so up yours you hole!

FredDibnah · Post by **FredDibnah** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:54 pm

Dj Yoshi wrote:Actually then your pastor or priest or whatever is wrong. The only religions that could possibly be the same are Islam and Judaism (Judaism for sure although people doubt Islam even though the Koran is only the Old Testament). All other religions are either polytheistic, or they follow a god that's not anywhere near the Christian god. And there's more to Christianity than believing in God--you have to believe Jesus Christ was your Lord and Saviour. Therefore, you have to believe that Judaism and Islam are both incorrect in their assessments of the lack of coming of a messiah, and that they are both WRONG. Yes, if you believe in a religion, you have to believe that you're right and all other religions are wrong.

I didn't say every religion, and the only examples he gave were Islam and Judaism. You could probably count Voo Doo as well, but anyway...

"They're wrong in their assessments of the lack of the coming of the messiah." Okay. Is that saying I'm competely intolerant of their beliefs? No.

And what happened to only Christians being intolerant? Now you're saying that following any religion means you have to denounce all others. Make up your mind.

Catalyst · Post by **Catalyst** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:49 pm

Actually, the one who said that Christians were intolerant of others' beliefs was GyroVorbis. Dj Yoshi said that Christians couldn't think that other religions were correct as well (and I think that's what he meant when he said "intolerant"), but he didn't say that Christianity was the ONLY religion that contradicted all others.

Dark Crusader wrote:Hey Im not going to get into a supperiority test of faith. So Im a little kid just because I like something you dont. I just think its funny that everyone gets into flame wars over the stupidest crap. No no one can be sarcastic or try to state there opinion without some other idiot criticising them. Oh and I never said I was wiccan I just said I liked the whol magic and dark arts thing so up yours you hole!

He wasn't flaming you... he was just pointing out the truth. It is sort of idiotic to base your entire system of beliefs on something that you find interesting. And no offense, but it doesn't seem like you truly understand the point of that faith at all. It's not supposed to be "dark arts", nor is it intended to be evil. And you may want to be more careful about insulting people. Doing so right after you accuse others of insulting people too much makes you look bad.

Dark Crusader wrote:I like ideas beter. Besides wikka is more interesting the whol witch craft thing is fun, and I like the idea that people think im evil. Fred im sorry if you hate me for saying that but I needed to get that off my back. Morephoom mof northes!

You didn't flat out say that you were wiccan, but rather implied it. It looks to me like you're using it as a label to get certain kinds of reactions from people, and that's stupid. It completely defeats the purpose of any religion. If you don't care about the fundamental beliefs of that faith and just want people to think you're evil, that's your choice, but understand that you're ignorant for doing so and there are going to be people who notice it.

FredDibnah · Post by **FredDibnah** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:05 pm

Ah, you're right Catalyst. Sorry about that DJ Yoshi.

Dark Crusader · Post by **Dark Crusader** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:50 pm

After all of my crap do you think if I cair if I look bad?

Marx Chaotix · Post by **Marx Chaotix** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:41 pm

I sure as hell do!

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This was a stupid post

No matter how I word it, this post sounds like an insult.