Should STL be used in game programming
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Should STL be used in game programming
An interesting question.... What are your thoughts?
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
well STL is in STD, and STD's are bad... I guess... no?
now really, I think sometimes you will just have to use at least a vector or a list somewhere along the way...
now really, I think sometimes you will just have to use at least a vector or a list somewhere along the way...
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
vectors are my bff
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
I use STL for just about everything. I find them extremely useful but I am no
expert so I am not sure if it is wise to use them all the time.
expert so I am not sure if it is wise to use them all the time.
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
vectors FTW!Bakkon wrote:vectors are my bff
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
I think its kinda lazy to use STL a lot. #include <algorithm> really? Thats just a slap in the face. Then again the whole C++ language is a bit...
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
are you talking about linking in general or the actual #include<algorithm>?
why is that bad? (it IS a time saver after all)
why is that bad? (it IS a time saver after all)
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
Absolutely, just about all my projects have need for STL (vectors baby!) and I don't think a single one of my projects is without it. It's just so damn useful for games 
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
If you don't use STL, you'll have to make your own stuff, and that's not a bad thing.
It's just like eating Pancakes with shit; you can still eat it but it'll be really messy.
It's just like eating Pancakes with shit; you can still eat it but it'll be really messy.
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
Uh... what?Netwatcher wrote: It's just like eating Pancakes with shit; you can still eat it but it's really messy.
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
I think Netwatcher just told everyone who writes their own containers to eat shit.Joeyotrevor wrote:Uh... what?Netwatcher wrote: It's just like eating Pancakes with shit; you can still eat it but it's really messy.
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
STL increases compilation times and executable size, but on PC, it doesn't really matter. Personally, I use STL all the time.
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
you got it all wrong...dandymcgee wrote:I think Netwatcher just told everyone who writes their own containers to eat shit.Joeyotrevor wrote:Uh... what?Netwatcher wrote: It's just like eating Pancakes with shit; you can still eat it but it's really messy.
It's maybe not the best example
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Re: Should STL be used in game programming
The only time that I would ever question the use of STL would be with console development because of what Marauder said:
It's also pretty substantial on PSP.
While Elysian Shadows is using STL on both the PSP an DC builds currently, that will be one of the first things to go when we start running into bottlenecks.
That's very true. On Dreamcast, where you only have 16 megs of RAM, you are making your executable approximately a MEGABYTE larger just by linking to STL.MarauderIIC wrote:STL increases compilation times and executable size
It's also pretty substantial on PSP.
While Elysian Shadows is using STL on both the PSP an DC builds currently, that will be one of the first things to go when we start running into bottlenecks.