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talk about ghosts in IRC

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as some of you were not present for the discussion, i would like to open this up for comments

[07:55:52] <Diventurer>Have you seen a ghost before
[07:55:55] <Diventurer>Or experienced
[07:56:06] <K1NET1K>no because ghosts are bullshit
[07:56:22] <Diventurer>That's w eird, because I've seen one
[07:56:30] <K1NET1K>get pics ?
[07:56:58] <Diventurer>... I know they exist, I don't have pics, it's not like I suddenly get a camera in my hand and get a second to take a picture
[07:57:00] <Diventurer>>_>
[07:57:05] <Diventurer>I have only seen 1 ghost too
[07:57:10] <Diventurer>And maybe 2
[07:57:12] <K1NET1K>same problem as everyone else
[07:57:14] <Diventurer>But unsure about that second one
[07:57:25] <K1NET1K>no one ever gets a clear picture of ghosts or ufo's
[07:57:27] <Diventurer>But the first one I'm 100% certain of though
[07:57:39] <K1NET1K>i think ghosts are in the mind
[07:57:45] <Diventurer>Don't associate this with UFOs
[07:57:51] <Diventurer>I don't think they are dude
[07:57:53] <K1NET1K>fair enough
[07:57:59] <Diventurer>Because I've experienced weird enough stuff
[07:58:07] <Diventurer>The old house I lived in, live a month there
[07:58:09] <Diventurer>You'll change your mind
[07:58:11] <K1NET1K>well no offence to you, but no one ever can backup these claims
[07:58:58] <Diventurer>Sigh, I still remember how he looked like... It's actually an about 1 in a lifetime experience to SEE a ghost clearly
[07:59:07] <Diventurer>It's frozen in my mind
[07:59:18] <Diventurer>Even ghost investigators never really see a clear ghost
[07:59:36] <K1NET1K>was it a ghost of someone you knew, or just random
[07:59:50] <Diventurer>Random, I have no idea who he was, I thought first he was a real person even
[07:59:52] <K1NET1K>"ghost investigators" are like psychics
[08:00:04] <Diventurer>Wtf?
[08:00:07] <Diventurer>No?
[08:00:09] <K1NET1K>they use some clever tricks to make people think they see/hear things
[08:00:14] <Diventurer>No no
[08:00:15] <K1NET1K>same as magicians
[08:00:17] <Diventurer>You don't understtand
[08:00:31] <Diventurer>I'm talking about technology
[08:00:39] <K1NET1K>i guess i would need to experience it to believe it
[08:00:50] <Diventurer>I never did have to be a skeptic,
[08:00:55] <Diventurer>I started experincing stuff so yougn
[08:01:00] <Diventurer>Before I knew what ghosts were
[08:01:12] <Diventurer>So it seems so natural to me that they exist
[08:01:17] <Diventurer>THat I don't think people may be skeptic
[08:01:17] <K1NET1K>hmm
[08:01:18] <Diventurer>._.
[08:01:45] <Diventurer>Have yhou heard about EVPs?
[08:01:59] <Diventurer>Electronic Voice Phenomena (idk if I spelled that rightlol)
[08:02:02] <K1NET1K>lol
[08:02:15] <K1NET1K>ok i will hear you out on this one
[08:02:47] <Diventurer>An EVP detector is a device that records sounds
[08:03:00] <Diventurer>And sometimes they catch voices of ghosts
[08:03:08] <K1NET1K>like a microphone ?
[08:03:11] <Diventurer>Kind of
[08:03:17] <Diventurer>It works like a microphone
[08:03:26] <K1NET1K>and when you play it back at the right speed you can vaguely make it seem like they said something
[08:03:33] <Diventurer>Yes
[08:03:59] <K1NET1K>i can make a snare drum sample sounds like its celine dion
[08:04:10] <Diventurer>...
[08:04:12] <Diventurer>What?
[08:04:26] <K1NET1K>anyway what about this evp's ?
[08:04:44] <Diventurer>Well, I was just telling you about them
[08:04:47] <K1NET1K>ah ok
[08:04:50] <Diventurer>And they don't seem to be fake, people all over the world use them.
[08:04:55] <K1NET1K>well i knew about them, just didnt know they had a name
[08:05:00] <Diventurer>AH
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[08:05:14] <Diventurer>I wish I could investigate my old house
[08:05:20] <K1NET1K>the devices arent fake, but the way people try and read so much into things is
[08:05:24] <Diventurer>Would be awesome
[08:05:39] <Diventurer>Some st uff is just clear that someone is speaking dude
[08:05:46] <Diventurer>I mean, you can hear some stuff
[08:06:14] <K1NET1K>i have watched many documentaries about ghost hunters, and they never offer anything conclusive
[08:06:23] <Diventurer>Watched 'Ghost Adventures' ?
[08:06:34] <K1NET1K>if you imagine hard enough "EJEJmdms SDSDkdkDK" can sound like "i want to kill you"
[08:06:51] <Diventurer>1sec
[08:06:54] <K1NET1K>and most times the people hear nothing at the time of recording
[08:07:10] <K1NET1K>more likely to be recording artefacts
[08:07:18] <K1NET1K>like spots on old photo negatives
[08:07:23] <K1NET1K>or static on the radio
[08:07:36] <Diventurer>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAScd2dZz7U
[08:07:41] <Diventurer>Watch a bit
[08:07:42] <Diventurer>Tell me what you think
[08:07:53] <K1NET1K>if i was a ghost and i wanted to say something, i would hover around in my awesomeness and learn the language
[08:07:59] <K1NET1K>then jsut speak clearly to the person
[08:08:07] <Diventurer>OMG, clearly it's not that easy
[08:08:10] <K1NET1K>"Hey i am a ghost"
[08:08:18] <Diventurer>Ghost ADventures put a lot of battery stuff
[08:08:21] <Diventurer>So the ghosts can use it
[08:08:21] <K1NET1K>"please get your best scientists"
[08:08:30] <Diventurer>They can't just speak like that
[08:08:35] <K1NET1K>"and we can prove this once and for all"
[08:08:38] <K1NET1K>why cant they
[08:08:39] <Diventurer>And you know it
[08:08:44] <Diventurer>Becuse they need energy
[08:08:48] <K1NET1K>why cant a ghost speak english
[08:08:53] <Diventurer>They can`?
[08:09:20] <Diventurer>I'm not a believer in those cold spots and stuff
[08:09:22] <K1NET1K>but they are out of mana potions ?
[08:09:26] <Diventurer>Wtf
[08:10:28] <K1NET1K>so they can move a physical object, but they dont have the energy to speak clearly ?
[08:10:56] <Diventurer>Omg seriously
[08:11:31] <K1NET1K>but someone acting and saying "oh my god" doesnt mean anything
[08:11:40] <Diventurer>Omg
[08:11:43] <Diventurer>Watch thev ideo
[08:11:45] <K1NET1K>i am
[08:11:51] <K1NET1K>its just fuelling my side of the argument
[08:12:12] <Diventurer>What about that birdcage btw
[08:12:17] <Diventurer>How did they do that?
[08:12:18] <K1NET1K>honestly, i would love to be proven wrong
[08:12:28] <K1NET1K>im halfway into the video
[08:12:48] <Diventurer>There are like 10 people or something that I have told all my ghost experiences to
[08:12:53] <Diventurer>And it took me like 3 hours each time
[08:13:16] <K1NET1K>what was the one definitave thing you told them that converted them to believers
[08:13:48] <Diventurer>Some were believers already
[08:14:50] <Diventurer>I remember that someone ran down the stairs each morning at around 7:40 -> 8 am in the morning before school
[08:14:54] <Diventurer>I was waiting for the bus alone in the living room
[08:15:03] <Diventurer>I mean like running
[08:15:15] <Diventurer>After it happened several times, I told my parents about it
[08:15:24] <Diventurer>Dad told me it was snow on the roof
[08:15:31] <Diventurer>But I knew it was not, because I could hear it was the stairs
[08:15:35] <Diventurer>And it continued after winter too
[08:15:38] <Diventurer>When there was no snow
[08:15:50] <K1NET1K>ok so long term regular ghost runnign down the stairs
[08:15:53] <Diventurer>And now a few months ago actually
[08:15:59] <Diventurer>My mum told me that dad and she would hear that too
[08:16:13] <Diventurer>When me and my brother were sleeping
[08:16:21] <Diventurer>They would hear people walking upstairs and stuff
[08:16:28] <Diventurer>Dad went up to check
[08:16:30] <Diventurer>And we were asleep
[08:16:40] <K1NET1K>i think your brother sleepwalks
[08:16:51] <Diventurer>He doesn't actuall
[08:17:11] <Diventurer>Sometimes, I could hear people talking in the attic
[08:17:16] <Diventurer>I couldn't hear what they said
[08:17:19] <K1NET1K>maybe there were people in there
[08:17:29] <K1NET1K>like living in your attic
[08:17:33] <Diventurer>Nope, the attic has a thing that locks it
[08:17:42] <Diventurer>Where would they get food
[08:17:56] <K1NET1K>when you leave at 8am every morning, they go out to the shops
[08:18:17] <Diventurer>I mean, you can't leave and enter the attic unless you have a ladder
[08:18:26] <Diventurer>And there was a switch
[08:18:28] <Diventurer>Outside
[08:18:39] <Diventurer>No way they could get out and in
[08:18:41] <Diventurer>TRUST me
[08:18:44] <Diventurer>No way
[08:18:48] <K1NET1K>hmm, well im gald that mystery is solved. ghosts do exist
[08:18:56] <Diventurer>... I know you're sarcastic
[08:19:00] <Diventurer>Even though it was obvious
[08:19:22] <Diventurer>I'm not even done
[08:19:23] <K1NET1K>honestly im willing to hear out peoples stories about bigfoot, ufos' ghosts etc
[08:19:31] <Diventurer>Bigfoot doesn't exist
[08:19:32] <K1NET1K>and its always the same thing
[08:19:44] <Diventurer>I am not a big believer in UFOs either
[08:19:47] <K1NET1K>it was moving too fast and the photo didnt capture it
[08:19:51] <Diventurer>Just a bit interesting to hear about it
[08:20:06] <Diventurer>A lot of ghost stories are made up, whick sickens me
[08:20:07] <K1NET1K>i believe in other species in this vast universe we live in
[08:20:15] <Diventurer>Of course there are,
[08:20:21] <Diventurer>It's not about belief even
[08:20:21] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:20:27] <Diventurer>It's obvious
[08:20:28] <K1NET1K>but i doubt their ships look like we have in hollywood movies, and sufddently started appearing in the 50's
[08:20:34] <Diventurer>Lolol
[08:20:35] <Diventurer> :P
[08:20:48] <Diventurer>True true
[08:20:58] <K1NET1K>so many ufo cases, only a few i actually believe
[08:21:03] <Diventurer>They are speculating about them appearing a few milleniums ago though
[08:21:08] <Diventurer>Milleniumdecades
[08:21:17] <Diventurer>True
[08:21:39] <K1NET1K>so im not a total skeptic, but ghosts i jsut cant believe in at al
[08:21:54] <Diventurer>Well, you have to see it I guess
[08:22:18] <K1NET1K>the trouble is i do a lot of drugs, and if i did see something i would never be able to convince myself it was actually real
[08:22:26] <RyanPridgeon>^ lol
[08:22:29] <Diventurer>Wtf
[08:22:32] <Diventurer>Hey, Ninja!
[08:22:34] <Diventurer>'Lol
[08:22:41] <Diventurer>Watching us talk
[08:22:45] <Diventurer>:P
[08:22:51] <Diventurer>Do you believe i nghosts Ryan
[08:22:51] <RyanPridgeon>id have the same problem if i was sober
[08:22:57] <Diventurer>Aparently not
[08:22:58] <Diventurer>._.
[08:23:00] <Diventurer>apparently*
[08:23:11] <Diventurer>Programmers tend to be too logical ._:
[08:23:13] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:23:20] <Diventurer>And way to many of them drink
[08:23:21] <Diventurer>too*
[08:23:24] <K1NET1K>ok so last thing u said was about tis attic and people up there
[08:23:30] <RyanPridgeon>do i believe dead people are walking around making themselves hidden enough for no evidence but enough for everyone to think they exist? no
[08:23:32] <K1NET1K>and the stairs almost daily
[08:23:45] <K1NET1K>^ exactly ryan
[08:23:45] <Diventurer>Ryan, trust me, they do stuff to make them visible
[08:23:48] <Diventurer>Just not everyone sees it
[08:23:58] <RyanPridgeon>yeah
[08:24:01] <RyanPridgeon>come back when you have evidence
[08:24:22] <K1NET1K>there are also people who believe in tin foil hats, and black helicopters
[08:24:32] <K1NET1K>but they get labelled as "crackpot"
[08:24:32] <Diventurer>I don't care to prove it.... Just a bit saddened that you don't believe my stories hehe, but understandable, so many idiots fucking up the reputation of ghosts
[08:24:39] <RyanPridgeon>ive never seen anything and ive been to loads of haunted spots at scary times, hell i walk past a graveyard in pitch black every weeknight with nobody else around, and ive even tried a ouigi board
[08:24:40] <RyanPridgeon>nothing
[08:25:04] <Diventurer>I have never tried to see nor hear a ghost, I see and hear them
[08:25:12] <Diventurer>Nothing happened in a few month snow
[08:25:13] <K1NET1K>what do they say
[08:25:24] <K1NET1K>anything meaningful or "dont forget to buy milk"
[08:25:27] <Diventurer>I haven't heard a ghost yet btw, was just something I said in the sentnence
[08:25:31] <Diventurer>Only heard the talking
[08:25:32] <Diventurer>In the a ttic
[08:25:41] <K1NET1K>hmm
[08:25:43] <Diventurer>And I didn't make out anything they said, because it was like when you hear a d istant TV
[08:25:47] <K1NET1K>so why not go up there when you hear it
[08:25:47] <Diventurer>You don't hear what they say
[08:25:53] <Diventurer>Omg
[08:25:55] <Diventurer>I mean
[08:25:56] <K1NET1K>take your dad, a video camera, etc
[08:25:57] <Diventurer>I SAID I CAN'T GO UP THERE
[08:26:03] <RyanPridgeon>thats a pretty incredible description of schizophrenia
[08:26:09] <Diventurer>sWtf?
[08:26:09] <RyanPridgeon>incredibly acccurate
[08:26:10] <K1NET1K>if i had ghosts iw would shell out the $50 for a ladder
[08:26:25] <Diventurer>We had a ladder
[08:26:26] <Diventurer>>_>
[08:26:39] <Diventurer>We all heard it
[08:26:41] <Diventurer>We have been up there
[08:26:47] <Diventurer>Nobody is there
[08:26:49] <K1NET1K>you can understand why people are skeptical of this though right
[08:26:54] <Diventurer>Yes
[08:26:57] <Diventurer>But it is so natural to me
[08:26:57] <K1NET1K>ok good
[08:27:11] <Diventurer>That I feel like I can't accept skepticism
[08:27:11] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:27:12] <K1NET1K>do you believe in people like john edwards ?
[08:27:17] <Diventurer>Who?
[08:27:19] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:27:22] <K1NET1K>that they can channel peoples dead relatives ?
[08:27:29] <Diventurer>Wtf?
[08:27:39] <Diventurer>You mean psyhchics?
[08:27:42] <Diventurer>No I don't believe in them
[08:27:45] <K1NET1K>no ghost whisperers
[08:27:49] <Diventurer>They're just crazy weirod
[08:28:05] <K1NET1K>but they make money off of it right ?
[08:28:15] <Diventurer>I guess
[08:28:15] <K1NET1K>jsut like the ghost busters video you linked
[08:28:24] <Diventurer>Ghost busters? wtf?
[08:28:42] <RyanPridgeon>"WE THINK WE SAW A FLASH OF SOME KIND OF ORB IN THAT LAST FRAME. YOU SHOULD TOTALLY KEEP FUNDING THIS SERIES."
[08:28:42] <K1NET1K>ghost adventures, best of
[08:29:19] <Diventurer>Ryan, they are skeptical about the orbs themselves
[08:29:26] <K1NET1K>pretty sure some fishing line would make things move and would be barely detectable on camera
[08:29:27] <Diventurer>They have told us
[08:29:35] <Diventurer>But they add it anyway
[08:29:42] <K1NET1K>and maybe your uncle or dad is fuckign with you about the noises in the roof
[08:29:47] <Diventurer>Ghost Adventures are real, it's just different
[08:30:09] <Diventurer>K1NET1K, I heard it
[08:30:11] <RyanPridgeon>how do you know
[08:30:17] <Diventurer>How do I know what
[08:30:26] <Diventurer>Oh
[08:30:39] <Diventurer>Because first of all; Their acting is fucking horrible
[08:30:40] <Diventurer>(seen it)
[08:30:56] <Diventurer>And it's different than most ghost hunting shows
[08:30:59] <Diventurer>You jsut hgave to see a season
[08:31:15] <Diventurer>They are epic
[08:31:17] <K1NET1K>no, because you watch a season and then your mind starts thinking it is real
[08:31:39] <K1NET1K>they play on natural human reactions to make it seem like X is happening
[08:31:39] <Diventurer>*sigh*
[08:32:13] <Diventurer>You don't understand - they are different...
[08:32:29] <K1NET1K>im watchign the damn video you linked, and its ridiculous
[08:32:34] <RyanPridgeon>i would rather just see the significant parts than watch hours of a tv show
[08:32:34] <Diventurer>When you see their show, it's like you get to know them
[08:32:46] <RyanPridgeon>i dont really care to know them
[08:32:49] <K1NET1K>this is a best of, this is the best parts
[08:32:55] <RyanPridgeon>link
[08:32:59] <Diventurer>Lol, it's a video I found only
[08:33:06] <Diventurer>It's old too
[08:33:09] <K1NET1K>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAScd2dZz7U
[08:33:17] <K1NET1K>it shouldnt matter how old it is
[08:33:32] <Diventurer>They didn't have that g ood equipment and experience
[08:33:41] <K1NET1K>you are missing the point
[08:33:47] <Diventurer>Why?
[08:33:48] <K1NET1K>the equipment has nothing to do with it
[08:33:59] <Diventurer>Omg, I have tos how you something
[08:34:00] <Diventurer>1sec
[08:34:01] <K1NET1K>something falls of a table, omg ghost
[08:34:06] <Diventurer>No,
[08:34:22] <K1NET1K>no, things fall off other things when they are pulled with a fishing line
[08:34:36] <K1NET1K>and the "laugh" is a slowed down distorted noise
[08:34:41] <K1NET1K>its all bullshit
[08:35:02] <K1NET1K>i mean whats to say that was even there before the editing was done after filming
[08:35:26] <K1NET1K>they are actors, go into house and pretend they see ghosts
[08:35:28] <Diventurer>Sigh, let us stop talking about ghost shows and back to the subject of ghost generally
[08:35:34] <K1NET1K>ok
[08:35:34] <Diventurer>Zak Bagans isn't an actor
[08:35:38] <Diventurer>He sucks at acting too
[08:35:39] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:35:50] <Diventurer>If he told us he was an actor
[08:35:51] <Diventurer>I'd not bnelieve him
[08:35:51] <Diventurer>LOL
[08:36:17] <Diventurer>Anyway
[08:36:52] <K1NET1K>In the October 30, 2009 Halloween special Ghost Adventures Live at the Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum, controversy arose when Robert Bess, inventor of the so-called Parabot Containment Chamber (claiming to attract and empower spirits using energy, giving them form), claims to have had an EMF meter knocked violently out of his hand. However, upon investigation of the video, it was found he instead
[08:37:05] <K1NET1K>o, it was found he instead threw it.
[08:37:14] <Diventurer>Yup
[08:37:20] <Diventurer>That annoyed me, he got selected
[08:37:31] <Diventurer>And then they found out he was just playing
[08:37:36] <K1NET1K>On the November 6, 2009 follow-up Ghost Adventures Live: Post Mortem, hosts Zak Bagans and Nick Groff admitted to the controversy after they reviewed the video themselves, saying they could find no paranormal explanation for the incident.
[08:37:39] <Diventurer>It was a special show where some GA fans could be a part of the investigation
[08:37:51] <K1NET1K>omg and you still believe it ?
[08:37:57] <Diventurer>What do you mean
[08:38:00] <Diventurer>It was just a stupid fan
[08:38:30] <K1NET1K>ok so a magician shows you 10 tricks, and the last one he lets you in on the secret of how he did it
[08:38:40] <K1NET1K>but the 9 before that were definately real magicx right
[08:38:48] <K1NET1K>because he said just the last one was a pretend
[08:39:07] <Diventurer>Ehm, so you mean the fan was an actor?
[08:39:13] <Diventurer>If I understood that right
[08:39:15] <Diventurer>>_<
[08:39:30] <K1NET1K>they are all actors
[08:39:39] <K1NET1K>because they make money off of gullible people
[08:39:46] <K1NET1K>its a sad existence
[08:39:57] <Diventurer>Hmm, you were mentioning you doing drugs...
[08:40:01] <K1NET1K>anyway frget the tv show
[08:40:05] <K1NET1K>go bvack to your story
[08:40:11] <Diventurer>Sure, sure
[08:40:30] <K1NET1K>im stil lwilling to believe in ghosts, just that tv show is a crock
[08:40:42] <Diventurer>Well, I'm not 100% certain on this one, but Iwill tell it anyway, it's more of my brother's point of view on something
[08:41:41] <Diventurer>My mum walked into my room one night, and she was going to ask me to change room with my brother... because my brother had seen a lady walk up to his bed and sit down on his bed ... Then, something like, banged under my bed
[08:42:06] <Diventurer>"Was that you?"
[08:42:09] <Diventurer>And she asked me
[08:42:09] <Diventurer>And I said , "No, it happens every night"
[08:42:14] <Diventurer>Which is the part I know is true
[08:42:34] <Diventurer>Because every night when I wnet to bed, I thought my cat jumped on my bed, but he wasn't there
[08:42:55] <Diventurer>It was just a normal reaction to see if my cat jumped on my bed, because he usually did that
[08:43:00] <Diventurer>But sometimes he wasn't there
[08:43:16] <Diventurer>Idk if it was just me thinking it was my cat
[08:43:22] <Diventurer>As a reaction because it was usual
[08:43:27] <Diventurer>So I'm not 100% certain
[08:43:31] <Diventurer>But still, worth mentioning
[08:44:06] <Diventurer>But when I figured out my mumfelt it too
[08:44:18] <Diventurer>I started thinking it might have been a ghost
[08:44:23] <Diventurer>But still, not 100% certain
[08:44:32] <K1NET1K>why are ghosts so mysterious
[08:44:44] <K1NET1K>why cant they just sit down on your couch and watch tv with you
[08:44:49] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:44:54] <K1NET1K>and shake your hand, and introduce themselves
[08:45:17] <Diventurer>Seems ... unrealistic
[08:45:18] <K1NET1K>and why do they only live in old houses, staircases, and attics
[08:45:26] <Diventurer>They don't...
[08:45:32] <Diventurer>That's just something people say...
[08:45:42] <Diventurer>My old house was about 85 years old
[08:45:59] <K1NET1K>why do they only come out at night
[08:46:05] <Diventurer>They don't, still another rumour
[08:46:20] <Diventurer>BUT
[08:46:22] <K1NET1K>oh yeah you said that one at 8am every morning
[08:46:36] <Diventurer>Well, it is because it was 8am in the morning
[08:46:39] <Diventurer>What else can I say
[08:46:44] <Diventurer>That it happened after I got from scohol
[08:46:44] <Diventurer>Lol
[08:46:54] <Diventurer>I'm not lying here
[08:47:08] <K1NET1K>i believe that this happened to you
[08:47:18] <K1NET1K>im jsut saying that there is a realistic explanation
[08:47:25] <Diventurer>There was actually one time I decided "Okay, I got to man up and see ..."
[08:47:46] <Diventurer>So I went to the kitchen( the kitchen is connected to the living room and the hall where the staircase it
[08:47:47] <Diventurer>is
[08:47:52] <Diventurer>And I stared a bit
[08:47:59] <Diventurer>But...
[08:48:00] <Diventurer>I didn't dare to look at the staircase
[08:48:05] <Diventurer>._.
[08:48:08] <Diventurer>I was too scared
[08:48:17] <Diventurer>I felt like it'd attack me
[08:48:29] <K1NET1K>why would a ghost be hostile towards you
[08:48:35] <K1NET1K>are all ghosts like this
[08:48:40] <Diventurer>Of course not
[08:48:48] <Diventurer>But the ghosts that are hostile, are often the ones making activity
[08:49:00] <Diventurer>Like, they are the ones wanting to cause chaos
[08:49:44] <K1NET1K>is there an einstein or stephen hawking type ghost, one that thinks about it "how can i prove to them we exist"
[08:50:01] <K1NET1K>and works out a way to definitively prove it to the world
[08:50:01] <Diventurer>Well, they've proven it for me!
[08:50:09] <Diventurer>It's just that there will always be skeptic people
[08:50:18] <K1NET1K>there wouldnt be if there was proof
[08:50:22] <K1NET1K>tangible proof
[08:50:27] <Diventurer>But how can one prove it
[08:50:33] <Diventurer>You say it's acting
[08:50:34] <K1NET1K>if they can make footsteps
[08:50:39] <K1NET1K>they can tap morse code
[08:50:56] <K1NET1K>surely one of these old ghost was a dab hand at morse code back in the day
[08:51:00] <Diventurer>Ghost Adventures get footsteps a lot, and one time they herad morse code
[08:51:16] <Diventurer>WAIT I GOT TO SHOW YOU A VIDEO
[08:51:17] <Diventurer>If I find it
[08:51:24] <K1NET1K>ok
[08:51:33] <Diventurer>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lXDAixtkaU
[08:52:08] <K1NET1K>are you serious ?
[08:52:19] <Diventurer>... you don't believe it :P
[08:52:31] <K1NET1K>fishing line will make a door close
[08:52:34] <K1NET1K>wind
[08:52:36] <K1NET1K>etc
[08:53:08] <Diventurer>The video was a bit bad quality
[08:53:08] <Diventurer>But why do you think it is fake
[08:53:08] <Diventurer>OMG
[08:53:08] <Diventurer>No way there is wind isnide there first of all
[08:53:08] <Diventurer>And why would they use that
[08:53:37] <K1NET1K>you havent seen a door slam with wind
[08:53:49] <K1NET1K>go open the froint and back door of your house on a windy day
[08:53:57] <Diventurer>I have
[08:54:29] <K1NET1K>a door slamming is not proof of anything
[08:54:39] <Diventurer>I just had to show you
[08:56:14] <Diventurer>Hm
[08:57:48] <Diventurer>I want to draw the person I saw
[08:57:51] <Diventurer>So bad
[08:57:56] <Diventurer>But I suck at drawing
[08:58:00] <Diventurer>I remember how he looked like
[08:58:06] <K1NET1K>thats great, but how would that help
[08:58:14] <Diventurer>I want to just draw him
[08:58:17] <K1NET1K>oh ok
[08:58:28] <Diventurer>I remember the boy I saw too
[08:58:31] <Diventurer>But idk if I saw that boyh
[08:58:41] <Diventurer>May be, err what is the word
[08:59:43] <Diventurer>Can I tell you something funny....
[09:00:01] <K1NET1K>sure
[09:00:01] <Diventurer>This is when I moved to another apartment though, where I saw the boy
[09:00:19] <Diventurer>After I saw the boy, idk when, maybe a few weeks later, I just know it was afterwards
[09:00:32] <Diventurer>On my computer case
[09:00:39] <Diventurer>There were 3 toy figures
[09:00:48] <Diventurer>And they were small
[09:00:50] <Diventurer>From kinder egg
[09:01:02] <Diventurer>And one of them, the penguin
[09:01:04] <Diventurer>Always fell dowmn
[09:01:06] <Diventurer>down
[09:01:11] <Diventurer>And I tried to replicate the event
[09:01:22] <Diventurer>But I couldn't make it fall the same way
[09:01:30] <Diventurer>One time it fled all the way to the door
[09:01:33] <Diventurer>(at least 2 meters)
[09:01:56] <Diventurer>I even tried to place the figure close to the end of the case
[09:02:00] <Diventurer>To see if it'd fall of the tip
[09:02:01] <Diventurer>It didn't
[09:02:03] <Diventurer>I had to push it
[09:02:08] <Diventurer>And even when I PUSHED it
[09:02:14] <Diventurer>It only fell straight down
[09:02:28] <K1NET1K>hmm
[09:02:41] <Diventurer>This happened several times
[09:02:42] <Diventurer>Ididn't count
[09:02:44] <Diventurer>So idk how many
[09:02:55] <Diventurer>I decided to move all the three figures to my shelf
[09:03:00] <Diventurer>And it never happened again
[09:03:14] <Diventurer>Again, it is physically and logically impossible it was because it was unstable
[09:03:29] <Diventurer>The feet of that penguin is completely flat
[09:03:31] <Diventurer>And the computer case too
[09:03:49] <Diventurer>Explain how that is LOGICAL!
[09:03:52] <Diventurer>Seriously
[09:03:58] <K1NET1K>thats a cool story, and that would freak me out if it happened to me, but it hasnt
[09:04:21] <Diventurer>So it strengthened the belief I saw that boy
[09:04:36] <Diventurer>But there is something I odn't understand
[09:04:42] <Diventurer>I find it weird
[09:04:51] <Diventurer>Even though I probably saw that boy probably less than a second
[09:04:56] <Diventurer>I rmember EXACTLY how he looked like
[09:05:04] <Diventurer>It's fucking c reept
[09:05:13] <Diventurer>It's so creepy
[09:05:38] <Diventurer>It's like I got so scared I remember exactly
[09:05:46] <Diventurer>I feel weird every time I think about it
[09:05:53] <Diventurer>It kind of creeps me out
[09:05:54] <K1NET1K>hmm
[09:06:09] <K1NET1K>starting to creep me out now
[09:06:31] <K1NET1K>you know how when yo uare thinking about something jsut before you sleep, and then you dream about that thing
[09:06:33] <Diventurer>If I had the drawing skills, I'd gladly draw him
[09:06:36] <Diventurer>And the other man too
[09:06:45] <Diventurer>LOL
[09:06:48] <Diventurer>I remember something
[09:06:50] <Diventurer>Not about ghosts
[09:06:51] <Diventurer>But
[09:07:06] <Diventurer>I wanted yoghurts so bad, I decided to buy 2 big yoghurts the day after
[09:07:06] <K1NET1K>or when you half wake up in the night long enough to catch yourself dreaming
[09:07:10] <Diventurer>So when I slept
[09:07:14] <Diventurer>I DREAM ABOUT BUYING YOGHURTS
[09:07:16] <Diventurer>xD
[09:07:20] <K1NET1K>lol
[09:07:26] <Diventurer>They were double the price too
[09:07:26] <Diventurer>Loll
[09:07:34] <Diventurer>And my dad bought one for me
[09:07:50] <Diventurer>Funninez
[09:07:55] <K1NET1K>but i mean if your brain can dream and imagine things in clear detail, its not unreasonable that it cn happen when you arent sleeping right ?
[09:08:15] <Diventurer>Ehm, but the way it happened...
[09:08:38] <Diventurer>You think I d reamt about that boy right?
[09:08:47] <K1NET1K>no
[09:08:50] <Diventurer>I mean daydreaming
[09:08:53] <Diventurer>Ah
[09:09:01] <Diventurer>Wel
[09:09:02] <K1NET1K>im saying if the brain can dream and we dont fully understand it
[09:09:06] <Diventurer>Well
[09:09:07] <K1NET1K>the brain is a crazy thing
[09:09:18] <K1NET1K>why is it not possible that some poeple are imagining this
[09:09:25] <Diventurer>Of course there are
[09:09:27] <RyanPridgeon>loving the philosophical discussion tonight
[09:09:28] <RyanPridgeon>xD
[09:09:32] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:09:51] <Diventurer>I'm skeptical about some of the stuff I've experienced too
[09:10:12] <Diventurer>At first, I didn't tell anyone about the boy I saw
[09:10:15] <Diventurer>Because I wasn't sure
[09:10:20] <Diventurer>Then when the toy stuf fhapened
[09:10:23] <Diventurer>I felt confident enough totell
[09:10:24] <Diventurer>But still not sure
[09:10:45] <Diventurer>I'm writing a lot of typos now ._.
[09:10:55] <K1NET1K>are ghosts from passed away people do you think, or something else
[09:11:12] <RyanPridgeon>that was just me, fuckin with you
[09:11:12] <RyanPridgeon>sorry
[09:11:24] <Diventurer>^what?
[09:11:30] <RyanPridgeon>dw
[09:11:44] <Diventurer>K1NET1K - ghosts are passed away living creatures
[09:11:53] <Diventurer>Some get some kind of intelligence
[09:11:56] <Diventurer>Some are just plain stupid
[09:12:01] <K1NET1K>ok
[09:12:10] <RyanPridgeon>where are you gettng these facts
[09:12:11] <Diventurer>There are billions of ghosts everywhere technically
[09:12:22] <Diventurer>Myself and everywhere
[09:12:27] <K1NET1K>are any of them trying to prove that they are there, scaring people for fun, or deranged serial killer style and just want to fuck with people
[09:12:36] <K1NET1K>because they are bored in the infinite afterlife
[09:12:47] <Diventurer>Uh, what?
[09:12:48] <K1NET1K>im trying to understand why they appear for some people
[09:13:00] <Diventurer>Some people just ... don't want to believe in them
[09:13:03] <Diventurer>Decided they don't want to see ghosts
[09:13:04] <RyanPridgeon>i bet i can tell you why..
[09:13:14] <K1NET1K>what are they doing hanging around scaring people though
[09:13:23] <K1NET1K>they can see you right, so they see you scared
[09:13:33] <Diventurer>Yup,
[09:13:37] <Diventurer>But what I wonder is
[09:13:39] <K1NET1K>im sure not 100% of ghosts are assholes enough to keep up the charade
[09:13:42] <Diventurer>Do they live in the present or the past
[09:13:51] <K1NET1K>surely one of them one day thinks he can prove he is nice
[09:14:04] <K1NET1K>so he works out a way to prove it
[09:14:07] <Diventurer>A lot of ghosts have been proven nice
[09:14:35] <K1NET1K>and are any of these nice ghosts smart enough to explain to scientsits why they are here, what they are doing etc
[09:14:43] <Diventurer>They are not thinking like humans
[09:15:02] <Diventurer>If they did, they'd take over seriously
[09:15:09] <K1NET1K>well the one messing up the bed when people werent looking
[09:15:11] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:15:13] <Diventurer>So that is obviously obvious
[09:15:26] <Diventurer>Maybe the ghost uses the bed and just wake up
[09:15:30] <K1NET1K>thats clearly a rational cheeky decision to do that
[09:15:31] <Diventurer>woke up*
[09:15:55] <K1NET1K>but why wouldnt the ghost have a ghost bed
[09:16:06] <Diventurer>;) *
[09:16:07] <K1NET1K>why can it fuck with physical bed in out existance
[09:16:08] <Diventurer>... What if the bed was used by the ghost ;);
[09:16:12] <Diventurer>Well
[09:16:35] <Diventurer>I'm just about 16 years old, I don't really understand everything about ghosts
[09:16:44] <RyanPridgeon>i like the idea theres more dimensions / space that we cant percieve or measure that might have something to do with our "ghosts"
[09:16:47] <RyanPridgeon>i dont believe theyre dead people
[09:16:49] <RyanPridgeon>thats just stupid
[09:16:52] <K1NET1K>i agree
[09:17:06] <Diventurer>Sure, that might be true also... I have never seen a dead relative
[09:17:18] <Diventurer>I am just telling my view of it
[09:17:24] <Diventurer>And what I've experienced
[09:17:39] <Diventurer>That was a nice sentence Ryan
[09:17:39] <Diventurer>Thank you
[09:17:43] <RyanPridgeon>haha
[09:17:52] <Diventurer>Never thought about that
[09:17:57] <RyanPridgeon>thats my bit for the next 10 mins before i get distracted by reddit agin
[09:18:03] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:18:36] <K1NET1K>i would say that seeing as you have regular enough ghosts
[09:18:43] <K1NET1K>you should leave a message out for him
[09:18:47] <K1NET1K>i assume they can read
[09:18:51] <Diventurer>What?
[09:18:52] <Diventurer>Hm
[09:18:57] <Diventurer>1sec, got a mail
[09:19:05] <Diventurer>Two actually
[09:19:05] <Diventurer>o_o
[09:19:20] <Diventurer>Okay, just YouTube and Megadeth
[09:19:22] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:19:23] <K1NET1K>"hi i am diventurer, i notice you fucking with my kinder toys"
[09:19:36] <K1NET1K>"can you please use this pen to talk to me instead"
[09:19:52] <RyanPridgeon>get your ougi board out and have a friendly chat
[09:19:55] <K1NET1K>if its playing with toys, its likely a kid
[09:19:57] <Diventurer>I don't think they acn write, I mean
[09:19:59] <Diventurer>They can of course lift a pen
[09:20:00] <Diventurer>But
[09:20:01] <Diventurer>Think about it
[09:20:03] <K1NET1K>so it might not have its spelling right
[09:20:04] <Diventurer>Lift up and down
[09:20:05] <Diventurer>Up and down
[09:20:15] <RyanPridgeon>mmmm
[09:20:31] <K1NET1K>what are you saying
[09:20:32] <Diventurer>Imagine they need an EASY way
[09:20:36] <Diventurer>A pen might seem simple
[09:20:39] <K1NET1K>ghsts can only violently throw things
[09:20:40] <Diventurer>But think about all the movement
[09:20:48] <Diventurer>They can lift and get rid off
[09:20:55] <Diventurer>Like you hit something
[09:21:00] <K1NET1K>omg now you are being stupid
[09:21:11] <Diventurer>No, you misunderstand me
[09:21:11] <Diventurer>1sec
[09:21:16] <Diventurer>(music)
[09:21:19] <K1NET1K>if a ghost can walk down steps and make footstep sounds
[09:21:24] <K1NET1K>then they clearly have legs
[09:21:31] <Diventurer>Of course they have
[09:21:32] <K1NET1K>if they have legs its logical to assume they are humanoid
[09:21:41] <Diventurer>Of course...
[09:21:42] <K1NET1K>yet they cant hold a pen ?
[09:21:48] <RyanPridgeon>i might as well be honest, i dont believe youve actually seen anything, you just like the idea
[09:21:50] <K1NET1K>this is why people dont believe
[09:21:59] <Diventurer>Okay, you don't believe me? Fuck you
[09:22:08] <Diventurer>It's okay you don't believe ghosts, but don't say I'm saying bullshit
[09:22:15] <K1NET1K>i believe you, im just trying to find rational explanation
[09:22:19] <Diventurer>I talked to Ryan
[09:22:25] <RyanPridgeon>thats cool, fuck me lol
[09:22:39] <Diventurer>K1NET1K, btw, I'm not an expert in ghosts, of course I may be wrong :P
[09:22:53] <Diventurer>You are probably right
[09:23:08] <Diventurer>But still, how many ghosts stories have you heard about writing
[09:23:10] <Diventurer>._.
[09:23:10] <K1NET1K>im giving you some experiemnts to do on this ghost or any others you may see
[09:23:15] <Diventurer>Hmm
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[09:23:40] <Diventurer>I may try it once
[09:24:05] <K1NET1K>i still dont understand how they can make footsteps, morse code, speak, yet none of them can ever write with a pen
[09:24:22] <Diventurer>You misunderstood me
[09:24:42] <Diventurer>I guess it seems logical that they can write
[09:24:53] <Diventurer>But it also is a bit unthinkable from my POV that they can write
[09:24:58] <Diventurer>I mean, they know how wto write
[09:24:58] <Diventurer>But
[09:25:00] <Diventurer>For me
[09:25:04] <Diventurer>It is a bit unthinkable
[09:25:10] <K1NET1K>why
[09:25:16] <Diventurer>It just is...
[09:25:23] <K1NET1K>worst reason ever
[09:25:26] <Diventurer>I know
[09:25:27] <Diventurer>:)
[09:25:46] <K1NET1K>so im telling you, ask them politely, leave a note out with some milk and cookies
[09:25:52] <K1NET1K>be nice to him, and he will write
[09:25:54] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:26:19] <Diventurer>I saw him at dad's apartment
[09:26:20] <Diventurer>I'm at mum's now
[09:26:29] <Diventurer>(they divorced and sold the old house)
[09:26:37] <K1NET1K>you seem to have run ins with ghosts often enough
[09:26:43] <K1NET1K>i would keep a pen handy
[09:26:51] <Diventurer>Well, a few months agosince last time
[09:27:06] <K1NET1K>he is probably on ghost vacation
[09:27:07] <Diventurer>Since I moved the toy figures
[09:27:11] <Diventurer>I haven't heard or seen anything
[09:27:19] <K1NET1K>you offended him
[09:27:24] <Diventurer>._.
[09:27:42] <Diventurer>Btw
[09:28:01] <Diventurer>This apartment (again; I'm at mum's apartment now)
[09:28:10] <Diventurer>Before, it was a senior center
[09:28:13] <Diventurer>And in the basement
[09:28:18] <Diventurer>There is a ... err what is the word
[09:28:25] <Diventurer>"dead bodies" cellar
[09:28:49] <Diventurer>I have had one experience here...
[09:28:56] <Diventurer>But it wasn't anything special
[09:29:04] <Diventurer>Just a door
[09:29:08] <K1NET1K>liek a crypt ?
[09:29:13] <Diventurer>Eh 1sec
[09:29:15] <Diventurer>I'll find a word
[09:29:47] <Diventurer>Corpse cellar?
[09:30:00] <K1NET1K>ok anyway, go on
[09:30:01] <Diventurer>Anyway, you get me
[09:30:14] <Diventurer>About what, the one thing I've experienced in mum's apartment?
[09:30:37] <K1NET1K>morgue ?
[09:30:43] <K1NET1K>like where they put dead peope
[09:30:45] <Diventurer>Err, idk! Lol
[09:30:47] <Diventurer>Yes
[09:30:50] <K1NET1K>or whre they bury dead people
[09:30:50] <Diventurer>Dead body cellar thingy
[09:30:51] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:30:55] <Diventurer>Where they keep them
[09:31:00] <K1NET1K>ok morgue
[09:31:17] <Diventurer>It is said that old people walk the streets outside the building
[09:31:25] <Diventurer>Old ghost people
[09:31:26] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:31:31] <K1NET1K>so do you tink that ghosts have to stay within a certain radius of their body's last know location
[09:31:43] <Diventurer>Well, to be honest
[09:31:44] <Diventurer>I'm not sure
[09:31:48] <K1NET1K>me neither
[09:31:52] <Diventurer>It seems a bit weird
[09:31:56] <Diventurer>But still a bit logicasl
[09:32:21] <K1NET1K>how long do you think these ghosts gang around ? forever, couple hundred years ?
[09:32:47] <K1NET1K>like do you thin kthat there might be viking ghosts, or stone age ghosts
[09:32:48] <Diventurer>Well I haven't heard about dinosaur ghosts
[09:32:48] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:32:53] <Diventurer>May be
[09:32:54] <RyanPridgeon>THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
[09:32:57] <Diventurer>xD
[09:33:02] <K1NET1K>t-rex ghost omg
[09:33:05] <Diventurer>xD
[09:33:13] <K1NET1K>GHOSTASAURUS
[09:33:16] <Diventurer>:D
[09:33:20] <RyanPridgeon>fkin raptor ghosts
[09:34:15] <Diventurer>Well the two ghosts I've seen seem to be from this century
[09:34:18] <Diventurer>I mean last centeury
[09:34:18] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:34:20] <Diventurer>century*
[09:34:50] <Diventurer>The man I saw, lol, he had this vest on
[09:34:57] <Diventurer>xD
[09:34:58] <Diventurer>And lightblue jeans
[09:34:58] <Diventurer>So 80s
[09:34:59] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:35:03] <Diventurer>Or 60s
[09:35:04] <Diventurer>Idk
[09:35:04] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:35:12] <K1NET1K>jeans makes it pretty recent
[09:35:19] <RyanPridgeon>http://i.imgur.com/mog0q.gif
[09:35:32] <K1NET1K>LOL cool pic
[09:35:41] <Diventurer>Rofl pro
[09:36:40] <Diventurer>I've heard about cat and dog ghosts actually
[09:36:51] <K1NET1K>well yeah i cant imagine why not
[09:37:02] <Diventurer>Lol, of course
[09:37:23] <Diventurer>But I mean
[09:37:32] <Diventurer>The chances of animals being intelligent ghosts
[09:37:34] <Diventurer>Is small
[09:37:38] <Diventurer>Thehy dont' do anything
[09:37:39] <Diventurer>Lol'
[09:37:55] <K1NET1K>well do ghosts evolve or learn
[09:37:56] <RyanPridgeon>obviously youve never played the sims
[09:38:02] <Diventurer>Wtf? Lol
[09:38:05] <K1NET1K>what about a chimpanzee ghost thats 100,000 years old
[09:38:16] <K1NET1K>could it have evolved enough
[09:38:29] <K1NET1K>or watched enough human activity to learn
[09:38:36] <Diventurer>Don't ask me ._. I've never met a 100,000 year-old ghost
[09:38:43] <K1NET1K>i mean it could be chimp ghost that are knocking things over
[09:38:50] <RyanPridgeon>"ive had this form for a few generations now.. gettin an upgrade on tuesday" - dead ape
[09:38:58] <K1NET1K>you COULD have, the ghost might be an old ghost wearing a new ghosts jeans
[09:38:58] <Diventurer>Lol.....
[09:39:02] <Diventurer>Ryan, made me laugh
[09:39:24] <Diventurer>I hope there is life after death...
[09:39:36] <Diventurer>Or some sort of reborn
[09:39:40] <Diventurer>I'd hate to die forever
[09:39:43] <Diventurer>I mean, it's just annoying to think about
[09:39:50] <K1NET1K>well if you did you wouldnt know
[09:39:57] <Diventurer>I know
[09:40:01] <Diventurer>That's the weird part
[09:40:04] <Diventurer>If I die
[09:40:06] <Diventurer>...
[09:40:07] <K1NET1K>if it does exists you can only say "damn im happy there is an afterlife"
[09:40:08] <Diventurer>Damn,
[09:40:28] <Diventurer>I wonder if I've lived before... I mean, you never know
[09:40:38] <Diventurer>You can't disprove reborning
[09:40:46] <Diventurer>I'm not saying that when one dies
[09:40:50] <Diventurer>A baby gets born
[09:40:51] <Diventurer>I mean like
[09:41:06] <K1NET1K>i can prove it
[09:41:11] <Diventurer>The main personality may get in another person
[09:41:24] <Diventurer>Or creature
[09:41:29] <K1NET1K>when a man and a woman have sex, millions of sperm are released
[09:41:29] <Diventurer>You can't relly, K1n
[09:41:43] <K1NET1K>its random or good genes which one gets in the egg
[09:41:47] <Diventurer>I thought you said "mad man "First
[09:41:54] <Diventurer>K1N
[09:41:56] <Diventurer>Read what I said
[09:42:05] <Diventurer>I said that when you die, IF there is a soul which may get reborn
[09:42:08] <Diventurer>Some type of soul
[09:42:10] <K1NET1K>but the others must all be loaded ready with "heres one we prepared earlier" soulds
[09:42:12] <Diventurer>Then it may adapt to a person
[09:42:18] <K1NET1K>or does it happen after conception
[09:42:57] <Diventurer>I'm saying, if you for example died right now... then maybe someone born next to you get a personality like yours a while latear
[09:43:01] <Diventurer>HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF
[09:43:04] <Diventurer>It's basically proven
[09:43:06] <K1NET1K>so when does the soul start existing
[09:43:13] <Diventurer>Don't ask me
[09:43:17] <Diventurer>:p
[09:43:19] <K1NET1K>after 1 min of conception, or 21 days etc
[09:43:29] <Diventurer>I'm just a 16-year-old kid minus 1 week
[09:43:29] <K1NET1K>how does a soul know he is in the right sperm
[09:43:38] <Diventurer>NO YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME
[09:43:40] <K1NET1K>how does he know he isnt just going to be awasted blowjob
[09:43:40] <Diventurer>Read what I said
[09:43:51] <Diventurer>You didn't read what I said
[09:44:09] <Diventurer> /annoyed
[09:44:10] <Diventurer>Lol
[09:44:26] <Diventurer>I'm not saying a soul is going to a sperm cell
[09:44:31] <K1NET1K>so you mean like there might be awaiting bay of ready to go souls
[09:44:36] <Diventurer>No
[09:44:40] <Diventurer>I'll say it again
[09:44:42] <Diventurer>In a better way
[09:44:42] <K1NET1K>and they osmosis themselves in when they feel ready
[09:44:42] <Diventurer>Ok?
[09:44:56] <Diventurer>Okay
[09:45:06] <Diventurer>When you die, I'm not saying your soul gets in a sperm cell randomly
[09:45:09] <Diventurer>Or goes to a sperm bay
[09:45:10] <Diventurer>Or whatever
[09:45:22] <Diventurer>I'm saying another person will get the same personality
[09:45:32] <K1NET1K>so like star signs ?
[09:45:34] <Diventurer>Like how there are always people who like books/movievs/programming/gaming
[09:45:35] <Diventurer>Etc
[09:45:38] <Diventurer>What? No
[09:45:40] <Diventurer>...
[09:45:52] <K1NET1K>well all aries are the same personality
[09:45:59] <Diventurer>Basically
[09:46:11] [RAW]: facepalm astrology
[09:46:29] <Diventurer>Hm
[09:46:53] <Diventurer>I love it when I ask people about the ghost, it always ends in an exciting conversation
[09:46:54] <Diventurer>:P
[09:47:03] <K1NET1K>does a prematurely born baby get a sould liek the one he/she would have got according to their birth date, or the actual day they were born
[09:47:19] <K1NET1K>eg if the soul existed at say 3 months pregnancy
[09:47:19] <Diventurer>I haven't said anything about that? No?
[09:47:33] <K1NET1K>and the baby was bormn prematurely at 6 months
[09:47:39] <K1NET1K>which personality does it get
[09:47:44] <K1NET1K>eg when does it get assigned
[09:48:46] <K1NET1K>do you understand how im linking up the rebirth now ?
[09:52:27] <K1NET1K>well my official diagnosis is that you are schizophrenic. i charge $110 per hour , so you owe me $330 for consultation and research
[09:52:35] <K1NET1K>thats probably about $9000 US
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Lol... I can't believe you posted that here xD
The reason I didn't respond to your goodbye is because my keyboard's battery went dead.

Well, I'll end the conversation:

What I mean is that when someone dies, or maybe just a bunch of people... With about the same personality... Then someone else gets that personality.

I'm not saying that their soul or anything is catching a person or wtf, lol... I'm saying that history repeats itself.
That there are always going to be people who like different things.

So don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that when someone dies they magically reappear in a newborn baby.
I'm just saying that maybe someone, from the age of whatever to 40 years old or whatever, suddenly wants to learn how to program... And the day before, a programmer died... a new one is born.

That is what I meant, you completely misunderstood that :)

O'well, great talking to you!
And WHAT DID I SAY, told you the conversation would last for hours :)
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I've heard family stories and things, but never have I heard or seen a ghost before.

There has to be other life out there in this universe, but that doesn't mean ghosts exist.
What would be the reason of a ghost? What is it's purpose?

Ghosts could be images of another existence in a different point in time, but then how would that translate through space when the Earth rotates around the sun. The ghost could be just another being, some other strange form of life that isn't documented and almost impossible to really capture. Or maybe, ghosts are just things we associate to anything we cannot come to a complete conclusion when something goes bump in the night. I doubt that ghosts are dead people, however anything is possible really.

Like k1nect1k said, if they can tap their feet to morse code and push shit around, why couldn't they write things down? You say that it doesn't seem right in your point of view, not to be rude, but what makes your point of view any more right than anyone else's? It is perfectly logical that if a being that can move things around, pick things up, and walk could easily pick up a pen and write something down. The only way that wouldn't fit your point of view is if you chose not to accept it as something ghosts do because you'd rather them remain a mystery instead of showing what they truly are.

If a species of "ghosts" exist, by now they would have means to communicate with humans in some way other than fucking shit up and freaking people out. If they are immortal creatures that have no physical form, then wouldn't they be piling up on Earth over a long period of time? And if they do "die" or whatever you want to call it, why would their entire purpose in their "life" be to scare humans? It doesn't seem like they're even trying to make contact at all.

If they are intelligent enough to communicate in such primitive ways as slamming doors and tapping things around, then they obviously are trying to reach out. But why be so round-about with the whole situation? Is there some ghost law that is like, "oh no you can't actually reach out and say anything, only whispers and taps"?

I say, if ghosts do exist, and perhaps they are some other form of life, by now they would have tried to reach out to us and establish some sort of communication. And if the only way one can "see" a ghost is by believing in it, then it just seems like they don't actually exist at all... I can believe in something all I want to the point to where I see things... but then I feel like I'm just going insane.

I'm willing to accept that ghosts could potentially exist, and yet I have yet to see one. The only "true" way of "seeing" a ghost is to put it in your mind that they exist, and anything you see you can just easily say "oh yeah, that's a ghost" without any rational and logical thinking.

Anyways, I don't want to drag this on forever.
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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Like k1nect1k said, if they can tap their feet to morse code and push shit around, why couldn't they write things down? You say that it doesn't seem right in your point of view, not to be rude, but what makes your point of view any more right than anyone else's? It is perfectly logical that if a being that can move things around, pick things up, and walk could easily pick up a pen and write something down. The only way that wouldn't fit your point of view is if you chose not to accept it as something ghosts do because you'd rather them remain a mystery instead of showing what they truly are.
I regret saying that, it was in the middle of the night. I tried to defend myself saying it was my point of view, but seriosuly, what I thought was that it seems weird to imagine a ghost write...
I say, if ghosts do exist, and perhaps they are some other form of life, by now they would have tried to reach out to us and establish some sort of communication. And if the only way one can "see" a ghost is by believing in it, then it just seems like they don't actually exist at all... I can believe in something all I want to the point to where I see things... but then I feel like I'm just going insane.
I didn't say you need to believe in ghosts to experience them. What I meant was that if you decide to not believe in ghosts, then everything you experience will be ignored by the person because 'it probably has a natural cause'.
My dad is just like this, he KNOWS ghosts exists, but he doesn't believe in them. I know he actually know ghost exists, but he denies it.

Anyway, the idea of ghosts being something in a different dimension f.ex is interesting.

A few things I think about ghosts:
- I don't think you can "FEEL" a ghost, many say it is SOOO cold or SOOO hot in a certain spot, bullshit if you ask me...
- I don't believe that psychics (AKA crazy people) can talk to ghosts and send them to a better place, I mean... Wtf?
- I do think ghosts use electricity to talk or manifest themselves, it's kind of proven actually.
The only "true" way of "seeing" a ghost is to put it in your mind that they exist, and anything you see you can just easily say "oh yeah, that's a ghost" without any rational and logical thinking.
Now you're just being stupid... Seriously.

And by the way, I know some people reading this topic will think I'm either stupid or something, but I guess some people just aren't meant to know they exist ._.
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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Diventurer wrote:
The only "true" way of "seeing" a ghost is to put it in your mind that they exist, and anything you see you can just easily say "oh yeah, that's a ghost" without any rational and logical thinking.
Now you're just being stupid... Seriously.

And by the way, I know some people reading this topic will think I'm either stupid or something, but I guess some people just aren't meant to know they exist ._.
How am I being stupid? All I did was just take your words and put them in the way you're basically trying to make it say.
Diventurer wrote:but I guess some people just aren't meant to know they exist
I'm sorry, but that's just illogical and complete fucking stupid way of thinking.
So anyone who doesn't want to just BELIEVE in ghosts apparently isn't supposed to know they exist?
I'm sorry, but that's just pure utter bull shit.
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I hope you guys don't mind, but I'm going to post my ghost story.

I few years ago, I was laying in my bed at night, and a white, misty-looking person came out of the wall and reached for me. It started calling my name, and I felt like I was getting sucked into the wall it was coming out of. I ran into my mom's room, and told her what happened. She told me that I probably got to much sun that day (which didn't make sense to me, because I rarely went outside for very long) and to go back to sleep.

I've never seen that ghost again. None of my relatives that I knew had died at that point. It was probably a weird daydream type thing. I'm sorry about the lack of details.
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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LeonBlade wrote:
Diventurer wrote:
The only "true" way of "seeing" a ghost is to put it in your mind that they exist, and anything you see you can just easily say "oh yeah, that's a ghost" without any rational and logical thinking.
Now you're just being stupid... Seriously.

And by the way, I know some people reading this topic will think I'm either stupid or something, but I guess some people just aren't meant to know they exist ._.
How am I being stupid? All I did was just take your words and put them in the way you're basically trying to make it say.
Diventurer wrote:but I guess some people just aren't meant to know they exist
I'm sorry, but that's just illogical and complete fucking stupid way of thinking.
So anyone who doesn't want to just BELIEVE in ghosts apparently isn't supposed to know they exist?
I'm sorry, but that's just pure utter bull shit.
Oh ... my ... gosh...

What I meant by some people not "meant to see them" is that not everyone sees them, I'm not saying you have to believe in them to see them, that's just stupid.
I haven't said that you need to believe in them to see them ffs, I meant that when you DON'T WANT to believe in ghosts, and you experience something, you most likely blame it on something "natural".
"Hmm, I wonder who that person I saw right now was... ... O'well! Probably just the wind passing by!" >_<

Stop scewing up what I say. It's annoying.
lotios611 wrote:I hope you guys don't mind, but I'm going to post my ghost story.

I few years ago, I was laying in my bed at night, and a white, misty-looking person came out of the wall and reached for me. It started calling my name, and I felt like I was getting sucked into the wall it was coming out of. I ran into my mom's room, and told her what happened. She told me that I probably got to much sun that day (which didn't make sense to me, because I rarely went outside for very long) and to go back to sleep.

I've never seen that ghost again. None of my relatives that I knew had died at that point. It was probably a weird daydream type thing. I'm sorry about the lack of details.
Ahh... I've never seen a mist ._.
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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how did the ghost in the wall know your name, i find that more weird than whether it was there or not
and you know how you look at a lightbulb and then look away you can still see the ghosting effect in the same shape. thats whats going on there. just my opinion
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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k1net1k wrote:how did the ghost in the wall know your name, i find that more weird than whether it was there or not
and you know how you look at a lightbulb and then look away you can still see the ghosting effect in the same shape. thats whats going on there. just my opinion
I have no idea how it would know my name. It definitely wasn't just that ghosting effect. It looked human, but white with a bit of mist around it. It reached out from the wall and started grabbing at me. Like I said, it was probably some sort of weird day dream thing.
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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Diventurer wrote: Oh ... my ... gosh...

What I meant by some people not "meant to see them" is that not everyone sees them, I'm not saying you have to believe in them to see them, that's just stupid.
I haven't said that you need to believe in them to see them ffs, I meant that when you DON'T WANT to believe in ghosts, and you experience something, you most likely blame it on something "natural".
"Hmm, I wonder who that person I saw right now was... ... O'well! Probably just the wind passing by!" >_<

Stop scewing up what I say. It's annoying.
Sorry, but maybe you should make more sense with what you're saying. It's not my fault if you don't fully explain what you mean when you say it and expect me to just assume that you mean something different than how it comes off as.

When you say "some people just aren't meant to see ghosts", most people would think that they aren't privileged enough or able to see ghosts.
What you should have said instead was "some people just don't want to see ghosts", that makes more sense with what you're trying to say.

Don't blame me, blame yourself.

lotios611 wrote:I hope you guys don't mind, but I'm going to post my ghost story.

I few years ago, I was laying in my bed at night, and a white, misty-looking person came out of the wall and reached for me. It started calling my name, and I felt like I was getting sucked into the wall it was coming out of. I ran into my mom's room, and told her what happened. She told me that I probably got to much sun that day (which didn't make sense to me, because I rarely went outside for very long) and to go back to sleep.

I've never seen that ghost again. None of my relatives that I knew had died at that point. It was probably a weird daydream type thing. I'm sorry about the lack of details.
Interesting, not that I think you're lying (you have no reason to) but the thing that sticks out the most to me is "Iaying in my bed at night". Like you said, it was most likely a daydream thing. But then again, I wouldn't have any idea...
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Re: talk about ghosts in IRC

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Well, LeonBlade, I guess you're right about my skills in explaining stuff... xD
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Ok, I thought about how dumb this will sound, but I want to post it anyway. When I first read the subject for this thread, I read it as 'Talk about ghosts in the machines' which is a line from iRobot. I dunno, just saying... got a little curious about the topic then I realized how dumb I was. Oh well, back into the abyss I go.
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Ghosts are like God.
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dandymcgee wrote:Ghosts are like God.
I guess null is like null, sure.
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